Top 10 Most Ghetto Cities (living, cost, rates, crime rate)

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Originally Posted by ComSense

Miami is safe - safer than all big cities in NC. The people are very friendly, friendlier than the folks in NC are. I dont know why people keep leaving Miami and S FL to move to places like Raleigh and Asheville - the people are rude in NC, they drive aggressive (more so than down in S FL) and there is no diversity there. They think by moving to NC they are automatically going to meet happier people, friendlier people, and see less crime. But what most people who are trying to escape dont realize is that Miami is paradise, and they'll find out sooner than later once they move to NC.

Who are you marketing to? I'm confused as to if your business involves getting people to move to NC or to move out of Florida. You are a psychological marketing genius, maybe even prodigy.

As far as your actual point (if there was one), you are actually sort of right, because people bring themselves with them. If everyone escapes Miami and moves to NC, what do you have? You have Miami in NC. Sorry. Miami is also safer than Charlotte whether you would like to accept this or not, and when comparing Miami-Dade County to Durham County (sorry for not getting back before), there is significant indication that North Carolina's major metropolitan counties are indeed nearly as dangerous per-capita as Miami-Dade County...the only one I see that's significantly safer is Wake County...

http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/Content/..._annual08.aspx

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Also, for all of the blame you put on "New Yorkers" causing Florida to "change", the big areas in the Northeast are actually among the safest places if you want to live in any kind of population center. The fact is that cities in both FL and NC suck for crime rates, and your argument that there are no "good" parts of Miami is ridiculous and untrue.

I'm not even going to argue the "people" part, because you tend to reap what you sow.

[aaronstlcards]

Originally Posted by BelieveInCleve

This is a reply to not only the quoted post but your whole argument with wesohood.

You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. Those stats posted were incorrect and outdated. The most recent stats released (2007) shows Cleveland had 135+ murders with a murder rate of 31.1/per100k compared to 27.5/per100k in Fort Myers.

Even checking recent city-data crime indexes and Cleveland has been higher every year since 2005 even with incorrect murder counts (off by 45 in 2007 alone), it's also been increasing recently while Fort Myers crime rate has went way down. Also let's not forget the fact that Fort Myers is in Florida near the ocean and is somewhat of a party/vacation city meaning the crime rate will obviously look higher if used with the normal residents population without factoring in all of the visitors.

You still don't understand? then read on:
http://os.cqpress.com/citycrime/City...8_Rank_Rev.pdf
Cleveland 7th Most Dangerous City / WCPN.org
Cleveland is poorest big city in U.S. - U.S. news- msnbc.com
Cleveland #2 on the Poverty List
Cleveland, Ohio, the 10th "Most Dangerous" City - Associated Content - associatedcontent.com
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/08/ma...closure-t.html

Cleveland has been named the 7th, 10th, and 11th most dangerous city in the past 3 years. Cleveland has been named the poorest large city in the nation twice in the past 5 years, it's also been named 2nd, and 4th in recent years.

Wow, Cleveland sounds like a great place... Come on man, I know to some crime is "cool" and "tough" but tone it down a bit. The last thing cities like Cleveland, Detroit and yes even St. Louis (to name a few) need is people "repping" their city's crime and poverty levels, which hurts their already declining image even more. Instead of helping Cleveland's image problems, you're really making Cleveland seem worse, rather than what you're trying to do, make Cleveland look "hard" and "gritty". In the real world, instead of from the protection of the internet, living in the "poorest" and/or "deadliest" city is just embarrasing and truly not anything to be proud of.

I'm not trying to attack you but I'm just honestly confused about people "repping" their city's crime.

[Redrum237]

Gary, Camden, Compton, and East St. Louis would be at the top. As far as actual CITIES go, I would rank them as following:
(note that this is most ghetto, in terms of appearance, not most dangerous or highest crime)
1. Detroit
2. Baltimore
3. Cleveland
4. New Orleans
5. Birmingham
6. Buffalo
7. Richmond, VA
8. Washington DC
9. Miami
10. Philadelphia

As far as most dangerous and blighted cities go, not simply ones perceived as most ghetto, I would rank them as follows:

1. New Orleans
2. Detroit
3. Baltimore
4. St. Louis
5. Richmond, VA
6. Birmingham
7. Memphis
8. Atlanta
9. Washington DC
10. Cleveland

Not counting Oakland and Newark there, as they aren't the hub city in their metro area. But they'd figure onto the list if they did count. Ditto for Camden, East St. Louis, Compton, Gary.

[MiamiRob]

Miami has pockets of areas that are ghetto looking such Overtown & Liberty City which are predominantly black communities. As for murders the city of Miami a couple of years ago had a total of 56 murders in a city of over 400,000 plus. Certainly not very high and sadly over 60% of those murders happened to young black men under the age of 35. Most of the murders in Miami are to due to the drug trade and the remainder being caused by domestic violence. Killing of strangers are not rampant such as those involved in a robbery. If Miami was such a violent place we wouldn't have over 12 million tourists visit the city and area every year. New Orleans is a smaller city than Miami yet has the murder rate 2.5 times higher than Miami does and tourists still go there so let's not blow things out of proportion.

[14thandYou]

Originally Posted by Redrum237

As far as most dangerous and blighted cities go, not simply ones perceived as most ghetto, I would rank them as follows:

9. Washington DC

DC most blighted?

[gogetta]

Why don't we post news stories relating to crime in these different cities and compare?

[WeSoHood]

Originally Posted by aaronstlcards

Wow, Cleveland sounds like a great place... Come on man, I know to some crime is "cool" and "tough" but tone it down a bit. The last thing cities like Cleveland, Detroit and yes even St. Louis (to name a few) need is people "repping" their city's crime and poverty levels, which hurts their already declining image even more. Instead of helping Cleveland's image problems, you're really making Cleveland seem worse, rather than what you're trying to do, make Cleveland look "hard" and "gritty". In the real world, instead of from the protection of the internet, living in the "poorest" and/or "deadliest" city is just embarrasing and truly not anything to be proud of.

I'm not trying to attack you but I'm just honestly confused about people "repping" their city's crime.

It's not about 'repping' the cities with crime. It is about acknowledging the problems so there can be some sort of substantial change. And I don't know about St. Louis -- but Cleveland has one of the safest metros in the nation, and I constantly remind people that.

[aaronstlcards]

Originally Posted by WeSoHood

It's not about 'repping' the cities with crime. It is about acknowledging the problems so there can be some sort of substantial change. And I don't know about St. Louis -- but Cleveland has one of the safest metros in the nation, and I constantly remind people that.

Alright, maybe I misunderstood. But if you read some of your posts it sure looks like it.

[ComSense]

[quote=compelled to reply;11438280]Who are you marketing to? I'm confused as to if your business involves getting people to move to NC or to move out of Florida. You are a psychological marketing genius, maybe even prodigy. Thank you. I just tell it like it is.

As far as your actual point (if there was one), you are actually sort of right, because people bring themselves with them. If everyone escapes Miami and moves to NC, what do you have? You have Miami in NC. Sorry. No, not necessarily. It depends on who from Miami is moving there. Miami is also safer than Charlotte whether you would like to accept this or not OK, Miami is safer than Charlotte. The only one who believes that is you though., and when comparing Miami-Dade County to Durham County (sorry for not getting back before), there is significant indication that North Carolina's major metropolitan counties are indeed nearly as dangerous per-capita as Miami-Dade County Durham was more than half the population of Miami and in murder had like 1/3 the figures of Miami. Rapes were higher per capita than Miami. But vehicle theft and assualt were almost 3 and 4 times higher in Miami than Durham....the only one I see that's significantly safer is Wake County...

http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/Content/..._annual08.aspx

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Also, for all of the blame you put on "New Yorkers" causing Florida to "change", the big areas in the Northeast are actually among the safest places if you want to live in any kind of population center. The fact is that cities in both FL and NC suck for crime rates, and your argument that there are no "good" parts of Miami is ridiculous and untrue. I agree. There are definitely nice parts of Miami and dangerous cities in NC as well as FL.

I'm not even going to argue the "people" part, because you tend to reap what you sow. Nope, this is one thing I stand very, very firm on. The peope in NC are by far and away friendlier than in FL. I have told you countless instances and examples and those sort of things never happened to us in NC. That's not a fluke. It is what it is. People in NC are friendlier/nicer - BY FAR.

[Redrum237]

Originally Posted by 14thandYou

DC most blighted?

In parts, yes. I was thinking more in terms of crime rate than anything, perhaps I should have rephrased that. Still, though, Anacostia in general and big parts of northeast are still pretty bad, both in appearance and actual crime rate.

In terms of crime rate, especially homicide rate, it's still worse than Chicago, Philadelphia, etc.