U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S. > City vs. City
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 1.5 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Jump to a detailed profile or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Business Search - 14 Million verified businesses
Search for:  near: 
Closed Thread
 
Unread 03-12-2011, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
3,071 posts, read 6,457,325 times
Reputation: 798
Camden:
Google Maps

 
Unread 03-13-2011, 01:32 AM
 
Location: Atlanta the Beautiful
617 posts, read 449,178 times
Reputation: 260
Quote:
Originally Posted by BelieveInCleve View Post
Camden:
Google Maps
ha ha it looks like anywhere in metro Atlanta.
 
Unread 03-13-2011, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
3,071 posts, read 6,457,325 times
Reputation: 798
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bizurko View Post
ha ha it looks like anywhere in metro Atlanta.
Atlants bad neighborhoods look nothing like that, and nearly all are far less dense.
 
Unread 03-13-2011, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Walker's Point, Milwaukee
6,093 posts, read 8,547,270 times
Reputation: 2378
Quote:
Originally Posted by BelieveInCleve View Post
Camden:
Google Maps
Holy Crap!!! how do people put up with that? where are their city officials? Milwaukee doesn't have one area that looks even close to that.
 
Unread 03-13-2011, 03:43 PM
 
640 posts, read 473,734 times
Reputation: 558
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bizurko View Post
ha ha it looks like anywhere in metro Atlanta.
Show me one place is metro atlanta that looks even comparable to that in any way. Ive been to the hoods in Atlanta and most of them are low density and even suburban looking.
 
Unread 03-13-2011, 04:13 PM
 
Location: The Bay
6,553 posts, read 4,282,323 times
Reputation: 2599
Quote:
Originally Posted by BelieveInCleve View Post
Camden:
Google Maps


Yeah that looks like ****. The only area that's remotely comparable to that (in terms of looks) in my neck of the woods are parts of West Oakland, Chinatown and Deep East Oakland... even then its not as extreme as that.


This is an extreme example for Oakland... anything worse than this is an anomaly.


http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/9120/dsc02691ig.jpg (broken link)

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4529/img0347bn.jpg (broken link)



This is a more typical level of dilapidation for the ghetto in Oakland:



http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/3079/img1038s.jpg (broken link)


http://img858.imageshack.us/img858/957/dsc02281u.jpg (broken link)



Fortunately, the vast majority of the city looks much better than this.
 
Unread 03-13-2011, 09:34 PM
 
Location: The Bay and Maryland
1,364 posts, read 1,078,698 times
Reputation: 1948
My vote goes to Baltimore, Maryland. Baltimore takes being ghetto and dangerous to another level. You could write a book on it. Look at the ridiculous crime rates in the notorious Park Heights in Baltimore. You are nearly 9 times more likely to be murdered in Park Heights than in a neighborhood with a crime rate that matches the national average and you are over 7 times more likely to be robbed.

http://homes.point2.com/Neighborhood...ographics.aspx

Quote:
i agree. All though oakland has a bit of a high crime rate it is still a livable city to live in. I rather live their then SF.
San Francisco is certainly not a ghetto city as a whole. But you'd be surprised that certain ghetto hoods in SF are actually more statistically dangerous than the hoods in much more infamous cities. For example, believe it or not, the general crime risk index in my old neighborhood in Lakeview in SF is actually higher than the infamous Anacostia in Southeast DC.

San Francisco Ingleside Heights Demographics - Neighborhood Demographics

Washington Anacostia Demographics - Neighborhood Demographics

Yes, you are more likely to be murdered or robbed in Anacostia compared to Lakeview in SF. But the rape, burglary and larceny rates in Anacostia are below the national crime index average. The crime risk index in Lakeview SF is above the national average in every category except burglary. The total crime risk index for Anacostia is 123 while Lakeview SF is 166.

Lakeview is also far from being the highest crime neighborhood in SF in recent years as well. Hunter's Point, Potrero Hill and the Tenderloin have much higher crime rates and are much more blighted as well. The total crime risk index in Portrero Hill is 199 and has an above average crime rate in every category:

San Francisco Potrero Hill Demographics - Neighborhood Demographics

Many of the projects in SF are much more dilapidated and unlivable than anything in the entire Bay Area. I've posted this street view of the projects in Portrero Hill in previous posts in previous threads. As you can see, these are obviously some of the most run-down projects on the West Coast and the entire country. Keep in mind these buildings aren't hundreds of years old like rowhomes in Baltimore. These buildings are also not exposed to extreme weather like snow and drops in temperature like East Coast ghettos. Also, these were barracks built specifically only temporarily house poor factory workers during World War II. Unlike many ghetto hoods in cities like Detroit, Cleveland and Compton, upper middle class White people obviously never used to live in these buildings. Also, unlike most boarded up buildings that are abandoned and uninhabited in other ghettos in other cities, poor people actually still live in these boarded up projects:

turner terrace san francisco - Google Maps

Last edited by goldenchild08; 03-13-2011 at 10:01 PM..
 
Unread 03-14-2011, 10:24 PM
 
Location: the future
1,265 posts, read 1,259,653 times
Reputation: 427
Quote:
Originally Posted by goldenchild08 View Post
My vote goes to Baltimore, Maryland. Baltimore takes being ghetto and dangerous to another level. You could write a book on it. Look at the ridiculous crime rates in the notorious Park Heights in Baltimore. You are nearly 9 times more likely to be murdered in Park Heights than in a neighborhood with a crime rate that matches the national average and you are over 7 times more likely to be robbed.

Baltimore Park Heights Demographics - Neighborhood Demographics



San Francisco is certainly not a ghetto city as a whole. But you'd be surprised that certain ghetto hoods in SF are actually more statistically dangerous than the hoods in much more infamous cities. For example, believe it or not, the general crime risk index in my old neighborhood in Lakeview in SF is actually higher than the infamous Anacostia in Southeast DC.

San Francisco Ingleside Heights Demographics - Neighborhood Demographics

Washington Anacostia Demographics - Neighborhood Demographics

Yes, you are more likely to be murdered or robbed in Anacostia compared to Lakeview in SF. But the rape, burglary and larceny rates in Anacostia are below the national crime index average. The crime risk index in Lakeview SF is above the national average in every category except burglary. The total crime risk index for Anacostia is 123 while Lakeview SF is 166.

Lakeview is also far from being the highest crime neighborhood in SF in recent years as well. Hunter's Point, Potrero Hill and the Tenderloin have much higher crime rates and are much more blighted as well. The total crime risk index in Portrero Hill is 199 and has an above average crime rate in every category:

San Francisco Potrero Hill Demographics - Neighborhood Demographics

Many of the projects in SF are much more dilapidated and unlivable than anything in the entire Bay Area. I've posted this street view of the projects in Portrero Hill in previous posts in previous threads. As you can see, these are obviously some of the most run-down projects on the West Coast and the entire country. Keep in mind these buildings aren't hundreds of years old like rowhomes in Baltimore. These buildings are also not exposed to extreme weather like snow and drops in temperature like East Coast ghettos. Also, these were barracks built specifically only temporarily house poor factory workers during World War II. Unlike many ghetto hoods in cities like Detroit, Cleveland and Compton, upper middle class White people obviously never used to live in these buildings. Also, unlike most boarded up buildings that are abandoned and uninhabited in other ghettos in other cities, poor people actually still live in these boarded up projects:

turner terrace san francisco - Google Maps

That SF neigborhood you compared to Anacostia has a higher crime index or whatever but the murder index was 203...IN Anacostia it was 569...thats the only index im ever worried about
 
Unread 03-15-2011, 01:54 AM
 
Location: Atlanta the Beautiful
617 posts, read 449,178 times
Reputation: 260
Quote:
Originally Posted by Observation View Post
Show me one place is metro atlanta that looks even comparable to that in any way. Ive been to the hoods in Atlanta and most of them are low density and even suburban looking.
hampton, griffin, jonesboro, any part of clayton county
 
Unread 03-15-2011, 01:57 AM
 
Location: Atlanta the Beautiful
617 posts, read 449,178 times
Reputation: 260
Quote:
Originally Posted by BelieveInCleve View Post
Atlants bad neighborhoods look nothing like that, and nearly all are far less dense.
your right that looks way too nice to be in metro atlanta
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $53,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Closed Thread

Over $47,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S. > City vs. City

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:27 AM.

© 2005-2013, Advameg, Inc.

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24 - Top