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03-12-2011, 09:50 PM
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Location: Cleveland
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03-13-2011, 01:32 AM
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Location: Atlanta the Beautiful
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Originally Posted by BelieveInCleve
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ha ha it looks like anywhere in metro Atlanta.
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03-13-2011, 02:01 PM
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Location: Cleveland
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Originally Posted by Bizurko
ha ha it looks like anywhere in metro Atlanta.
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Atlants bad neighborhoods look nothing like that, and nearly all are far less dense.
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03-13-2011, 02:07 PM
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Location: Walker's Point, Milwaukee
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Originally Posted by BelieveInCleve
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Holy Crap!!! how do people put up with that? where are their city officials? Milwaukee doesn't have one area that looks even close to that.
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03-13-2011, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Bizurko
ha ha it looks like anywhere in metro Atlanta.
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Show me one place is metro atlanta that looks even comparable to that in any way. Ive been to the hoods in Atlanta and most of them are low density and even suburban looking.
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03-13-2011, 04:13 PM
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Location: The Bay
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Originally Posted by BelieveInCleve
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Yeah that looks like ****. The only area that's remotely comparable to that (in terms of looks) in my neck of the woods are parts of West Oakland, Chinatown and Deep East Oakland... even then its not as extreme as that.
This is an extreme example for Oakland... anything worse than this is an anomaly.
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/9120/dsc02691ig.jpg (broken link)
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4529/img0347bn.jpg (broken link)
This is a more typical level of dilapidation for the ghetto in Oakland:
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/3079/img1038s.jpg (broken link)
http://img858.imageshack.us/img858/957/dsc02281u.jpg (broken link)
Fortunately, the vast majority of the city looks much better than this.
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03-13-2011, 09:34 PM
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Location: The Bay and Maryland
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My vote goes to Baltimore, Maryland. Baltimore takes being ghetto and dangerous to another level. You could write a book on it. Look at the ridiculous crime rates in the notorious Park Heights in Baltimore. You are nearly 9 times more likely to be murdered in Park Heights than in a neighborhood with a crime rate that matches the national average and you are over 7 times more likely to be robbed.
http://homes.point2.com/Neighborhood...ographics.aspx
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i agree. All though oakland has a bit of a high crime rate it is still a livable city to live in. I rather live their then SF.
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San Francisco is certainly not a ghetto city as a whole. But you'd be surprised that certain ghetto hoods in SF are actually more statistically dangerous than the hoods in much more infamous cities. For example, believe it or not, the general crime risk index in my old neighborhood in Lakeview in SF is actually higher than the infamous Anacostia in Southeast DC.
San Francisco Ingleside Heights Demographics - Neighborhood Demographics
Washington Anacostia Demographics - Neighborhood Demographics
Yes, you are more likely to be murdered or robbed in Anacostia compared to Lakeview in SF. But the rape, burglary and larceny rates in Anacostia are below the national crime index average. The crime risk index in Lakeview SF is above the national average in every category except burglary. The total crime risk index for Anacostia is 123 while Lakeview SF is 166.
Lakeview is also far from being the highest crime neighborhood in SF in recent years as well. Hunter's Point, Potrero Hill and the Tenderloin have much higher crime rates and are much more blighted as well. The total crime risk index in Portrero Hill is 199 and has an above average crime rate in every category:
San Francisco Potrero Hill Demographics - Neighborhood Demographics
Many of the projects in SF are much more dilapidated and unlivable than anything in the entire Bay Area. I've posted this street view of the projects in Portrero Hill in previous posts in previous threads. As you can see, these are obviously some of the most run-down projects on the West Coast and the entire country. Keep in mind these buildings aren't hundreds of years old like rowhomes in Baltimore. These buildings are also not exposed to extreme weather like snow and drops in temperature like East Coast ghettos. Also, these were barracks built specifically only temporarily house poor factory workers during World War II. Unlike many ghetto hoods in cities like Detroit, Cleveland and Compton, upper middle class White people obviously never used to live in these buildings. Also, unlike most boarded up buildings that are abandoned and uninhabited in other ghettos in other cities, poor people actually still live in these boarded up projects:
turner terrace san francisco - Google Maps
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03-14-2011, 10:24 PM
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Location: the future
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Originally Posted by goldenchild08
My vote goes to Baltimore, Maryland. Baltimore takes being ghetto and dangerous to another level. You could write a book on it. Look at the ridiculous crime rates in the notorious Park Heights in Baltimore. You are nearly 9 times more likely to be murdered in Park Heights than in a neighborhood with a crime rate that matches the national average and you are over 7 times more likely to be robbed.
Baltimore Park Heights Demographics - Neighborhood Demographics
San Francisco is certainly not a ghetto city as a whole. But you'd be surprised that certain ghetto hoods in SF are actually more statistically dangerous than the hoods in much more infamous cities. For example, believe it or not, the general crime risk index in my old neighborhood in Lakeview in SF is actually higher than the infamous Anacostia in Southeast DC.
San Francisco Ingleside Heights Demographics - Neighborhood Demographics
Washington Anacostia Demographics - Neighborhood Demographics
Yes, you are more likely to be murdered or robbed in Anacostia compared to Lakeview in SF. But the rape, burglary and larceny rates in Anacostia are below the national crime index average. The crime risk index in Lakeview SF is above the national average in every category except burglary. The total crime risk index for Anacostia is 123 while Lakeview SF is 166.
Lakeview is also far from being the highest crime neighborhood in SF in recent years as well. Hunter's Point, Potrero Hill and the Tenderloin have much higher crime rates and are much more blighted as well. The total crime risk index in Portrero Hill is 199 and has an above average crime rate in every category:
San Francisco Potrero Hill Demographics - Neighborhood Demographics
Many of the projects in SF are much more dilapidated and unlivable than anything in the entire Bay Area. I've posted this street view of the projects in Portrero Hill in previous posts in previous threads. As you can see, these are obviously some of the most run-down projects on the West Coast and the entire country. Keep in mind these buildings aren't hundreds of years old like rowhomes in Baltimore. These buildings are also not exposed to extreme weather like snow and drops in temperature like East Coast ghettos. Also, these were barracks built specifically only temporarily house poor factory workers during World War II. Unlike many ghetto hoods in cities like Detroit, Cleveland and Compton, upper middle class White people obviously never used to live in these buildings. Also, unlike most boarded up buildings that are abandoned and uninhabited in other ghettos in other cities, poor people actually still live in these boarded up projects:
turner terrace san francisco - Google Maps
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That SF neigborhood you compared to Anacostia has a higher crime index or whatever but the murder index was 203...IN Anacostia it was 569...thats the only index im ever worried about
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03-15-2011, 01:54 AM
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Location: Atlanta the Beautiful
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Originally Posted by Observation
Show me one place is metro atlanta that looks even comparable to that in any way. Ive been to the hoods in Atlanta and most of them are low density and even suburban looking.
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hampton, griffin, jonesboro, any part of clayton county
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03-15-2011, 01:57 AM
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Location: Atlanta the Beautiful
617 posts, read 449,178 times
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Originally Posted by BelieveInCleve
Atlants bad neighborhoods look nothing like that, and nearly all are far less dense.
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your right that looks way too nice to be in metro atlanta
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