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04-06-2009, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by chicken.or.the.nugget
well then the densent, most vibrant places would be in jersey. It's the densent state with the densest cities (more like towns though).
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It helps that everywhere in Jersey falls into a metro area lol
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04-06-2009, 08:38 PM
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Location: Chicago - mudhole in the prairie...
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Originally Posted by Golden-mind-State
It helps that everywhere in Jersey falls into a metro area lol
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Actually two, NYC in the north and Philly in the south of New Jersey.
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04-06-2009, 08:40 PM
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Location: Chicago - mudhole in the prairie...
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Originally Posted by johntremaine
But downtown San Francisco to me feels more like a big city than Chicago...so many people, the density and diversity is overwhelming. And even outside of downtown there are incredibly vibrant neighborhoods. The entire city is surprisingly urban and cosmopolitan. .
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Most places are more vibrant than Chicago.... Besides being really big there is nothing special or original about Chicago or its culture...
Last edited by dementor; 04-06-2009 at 08:50 PM..
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04-06-2009, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by dementor
Actually two, NYC in the north and Philly in the south of New Jersey.
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Yeah,I didn't mean just one,just generally everywhere in the state is a part of a metro.
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04-06-2009, 08:43 PM
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Location: Western Chicagoland
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Originally Posted by johntremaine
Which is strange, because Chicago has a larger population (although metro areas are somewhat similar) and a bigger skyline.
But downtown San Francisco to me feels more like a big city than Chicago...so many people, the density and diversity is overwhelming. And even outside of downtown there are incredibly vibrant neighborhoods. The entire city is surprisingly urban and cosmopolitan.
Chicago is happening, but nothing in Chicago can quite rival the hustle and bustle of Union Square, Chinatown, North Beach, or even the Mission.
Ive lived in both cities (ok, I lived in Evanston, but spent a lot of time in Chicago) and loved them both, but San Fran is second only to NYC (which is a whole 'nother level) in terms of urban vibrancy.
Chicago's architecture is hard to beat, though.
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Funny you bring this up. I enjoyed visiting SF because it was a big city, but felt a lot more "snug" (for lack of better term) and not as tightly wound as Chicago. It was quite busy (weekday), but it was about as busy as the more quiet areas of the Loop in Chicago. If you get up North of the river in Chicago (especially on the weekends) its MUCH more hectic than anything I saw in San Fran. I guess Ill have to go back to San Fran and see how it is on the weekends to make it fair.
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04-06-2009, 08:46 PM
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Location: Western Chicagoland
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Originally Posted by dementor
Most places are more vibrant than Chicago.... Besides being really big there is nothing special about Chicago or its culture...
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Youre perfect proof that C-D needs to impose a "noone under 15 years old is allowed to post" rule.
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04-06-2009, 08:48 PM
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Location: Chicago, Little Chicago, Uptown
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Just add dementor to your ignore list.
This thread so far has been a great example of how you can have a constructive debate without putting down another city.
The way the threads should be.
And San Fran is a great city by the way!
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04-06-2009, 08:49 PM
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Location: Midwest Coast
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Originally Posted by Gtownoe
Just add dementor to your ignore list.
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Yep, seems like 90% of his posts are derogatory to Chicago, he has nothing to add. IGNORE.
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04-06-2009, 08:59 PM
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Location: Chicago - mudhole in the prairie...
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Originally Posted by vdy1985
Yep, seems like 90% of his posts are derogatory to Chicago, he has nothing to add. IGNORE.
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You are more then woelcomed to ignore my post. I do not see Chicago as vibrant or diverse: ten thousand people in Cubs jerseys do not look very diverse to me....
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04-06-2009, 09:02 PM
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San Francisco doesn't feel more dense or urban to me than Chicago. What it felt like was one giant Lakeview but with only a handful of skyscrapers. It is incredibly difficult to get around San Francisco, though-- impossibly crowded traffic and extremely expensive public transit make for one hell of a trip wherever you want to go.
As for vibrant, possibly I could see that as some very weak derivative of the amount of people "outdoors". Chicago is not an outdoors city... Nor is New York, Philadelphia or Boston. In the summer, now, these cities step so far beyond anything San Francisco could ever achieve it's overwhelming.
San Francisco is more dense, this is true, but only in a very small portion of the city and even then I believe this to be false density. The population of the city is so much smaller than Chicago that density is irrelevant. It's also significantly less vertical than Chicago. San Francisco is a very flat, one-story kind of town.
Last but not least, San Francisco is a very, very laid back "jeans and a jacket" kind of town. Professionals rarely dress up, certainly never to the standards of those of us back east.
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