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View Poll Results: Which region is Better?
The West 80 61.07%
South 51 38.93%
Voters: 131. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-15-2009, 11:05 AM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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At least the cost of living is cheaper in the south than out west. that is the only thing it have going for them.
If I had to live in the south past Virginia I would probably go with Charlotte and thats it.
this is just economics, you get what you pay for... we should all move to south dakota if you want to get into COL ...

FL is a great example of this as more people peak interest in florida, the COL and property values here have skyrocketed...

more to do, better amenities, better weather, people want to be there, COL will go up...

do you want to save for some delusional retirement happy years with low cost of living, or live your life now and pay more for it? whether this be more cultural things, or more days you can actually spend outside in comfortable weather, either way you are going to pay for it. The less of each you get, the less COL you have to pay.

things to think about.
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Old 04-15-2009, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Living in Hampton, VA
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I can understand you because if I had to move north, I wouldn't move past Charlotte because no state is growing north of NC.
2 questions What is wrong with moving further north than Charlotte and number 2. Although Dallas, Atlanta, Houston etc have the jobs, It's the lack of transportation combined with the sprawl and walkability that turn people off to those cities. There are some people who do not want to drive everywhere they go.
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Old 04-16-2009, 06:43 AM
 
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2 questions What is wrong with moving further north than Charlotte and number 2. Although Dallas, Atlanta, Houston etc have the jobs, It's the lack of transportation combined with the sprawl and walkability that turn people off to those cities. There are some people who do not want to drive everywhere they go.
To answer your questions....#1, I wouldn't live in Virginia because there's no major cities like Charlotte, Atlanta or Houston. Also, there are no professional sports teams in Virginia and I love going to professional sports arenas. I'm not too thrilled with the DC area, it's just not a place I would want to live. I found NYC (Manhattan) to be smelly and trashy and although the Bronx, Brooklyn and Queens seems to be more residential, its not my type of place.

I personally don't mind of the spawl in the sunbelt cities, I'd much rather have my own space than live on top of someone. But to each its own.
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Old 04-16-2009, 08:28 AM
 
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2 questions What is wrong with moving further north than Charlotte and number 2. Although Dallas, Atlanta, Houston etc have the jobs, It's the lack of transportation combined with the sprawl and walkability that turn people off to those cities. There are some people who do not want to drive everywhere they go.
Lack of transportation huh? You obviously don't know what you're talking about....Dallas and Atlanta have extensive rail transit, and Houston has a system that just started service recently...

Ever heard of DART?

DART.org - DART Rail System Map


Ever heard of MARTA?
http://www.itsmarta.com/images/rail_map_2008.jpg (broken link)
MARTA - Getting There - Rail Schedules & Maps (http://www.itsmarta.com/getthere/schedules/index-rail.htm - broken link)
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Old 04-16-2009, 08:32 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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the south will never win a thread
Yeah I voted for West too.
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Old 04-16-2009, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Living in Hampton, VA
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Lack of transportation huh? You obviously don't know what you're talking about....Dallas and Atlanta have extensive rail transit, and Houston has a system that just started service recently...

Ever heard of DART?

DART.org - DART Rail System Map


Ever heard of MARTA?

MARTA - Getting There - Rail Schedules & Maps (http://www.itsmarta.com/getthere/schedules/index-rail.htm - broken link)
Marta does not cover the whole city so stop that foolishness. Dallas is light rail which is okay I guess for a southern city. The Marta subway only have 2 lines. When Atlanta expands their subway system then maybe you can say something.
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Old 04-16-2009, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Living in Hampton, VA
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This is public transportation at its best.
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Old 04-16-2009, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Living in Hampton, VA
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Check out this one.

MBTA Subway 'The 'T' > Maps, Schedules, and Fare Information for the Boston Area Subway System

or this one.



You might have public transportation in Atlanta and Dallas but it is not as extensive as some other cities.
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Old 04-16-2009, 05:15 PM
 
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You might have public transportation in Atlanta and Dallas but it is not as extensive as some other cities.
exactly, not sure what people don't get...

... it isn't even useful unless you live in a specific location, most cities you can live virtually anywhere that is populated and get on the subway in a few blocks walk...

some more examples to beat it into their heads. I covered that in the ridership and it is mostly poor blacks that use Marta and this was published by the city of atlanta in 2007, still won't get it. it is a losing battle.

Clearly their version of "extensive" is different than most peoples.

http://subway.umka.org/maps/paris.gif
http://subway.umka.org/maps/boston.gif
http://subway.umka.org/maps/london.gif
http://subway.umka.org/maps/washington.gif
http://subway.umka.org/maps/madrid.gif
http://subway.umka.org/maps/barcelona.gif

sunbelt cities are horrendous and not even considerable if you don't wanna drive yourself bonkers to live without a car, other cities you are often better off without a car.
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Old 04-16-2009, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Living in Hampton, VA
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exactly, not sure what people don't get...

... it isn't even useful unless you live in a specific location, most cities you can live virtually anywhere that is populated and get on the subway in a few blocks walk...

some more examples to beat it into their heads. I covered that in the ridership and it is mostly poor blacks that use Marta and this was published by the city of atlanta in 2007, still won't get it. it is a losing battle.

Clearly their version of "extensive" is different than most peoples.

http://subway.umka.org/maps/paris.gif
http://subway.umka.org/maps/boston.gif
http://subway.umka.org/maps/london.gif
http://subway.umka.org/maps/washington.gif
http://subway.umka.org/maps/madrid.gif
http://subway.umka.org/maps/barcelona.gif

sunbelt cities are horrendous and not even considerable if you don't wanna drive yourself bonkers to live without a car, other cities you are often better off without a car.
Now those are the cities I want to live in. The Chicago L map is kind of outdated (It does not have the pink line).
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