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Old 10-06-2009, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Houston
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In who eyes yours. You really think Houston would beat Dallas in national poll of importance. If you do you are crazy. It would not even be close. Dallas would run away with the poll. Houstonians can rave about there town on city-data but the vast majority of americans would think different. When you think of Texas the first city that comes to mind is Dallas.
This is an old debate that has been going on in Texas for decades. As far I'm concerned, they're tied. If Dallas is ahead of Houston, or vice-versa, it's not by much.
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Old 10-06-2009, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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In who eyes yours. You really think Houston would beat Dallas in national poll of importance. If you do you are crazy. It would not even be close. Dallas would run away with the poll. Houstonians can rave about there town on city-data but the vast majority of americans would think different. When you think of Texas the first city that comes to mind is Dallas.
And what does Dallas have that could compete? ports??? Nope. What about TMC? Nothing. Rice? Zip. NASA? Nata. Oil? No. Hmm....maybe you can convince me otherwise (or not).
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Old 10-06-2009, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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I have to disagree.Houston has two solid things over Dallas and Atlanta that easily secures its place over them. Oil/Energy and Ports. Simple as that. On an importance level; Houston is clearly more important.
In those aspects they are more important. Houston's economy is less diverse than Dallas' and Dallas is much bigger in finance. Those would be ways that Dallas would be more important.

And remember, that Dallas does rank higher than Houston in the Global cities catagory. And Atlanta higher than Dallas. What do we make of that? (cue the "that list is bunk" crowd).

So again, I think it depends on the catagory we are talking of as to which is more important.

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Old 10-06-2009, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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In those aspects they are more important. Houston's economy is less diverse than Dallas' and Dallas is much bigger in finance. Those would be ways that Dallas would be more important.

And remember, that Dallas does rank higher than Houston in the Global cities catagory. And Atlanta higher than Dallas. What do we make of that? (cue the "that list is bunk" crowd).

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In finance behind NYC, SF, BOS, CHI, and more. Houston is 1st in Oil/Energy and tops for ports. Aeronautics, Research,Biotechnology, Manufacturing, and more. Houston has a fairly diverse economy just like any other city, but Oil comes first.
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Old 10-06-2009, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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And what does Dallas have that could compete? ports??? Nope. What about TMC? Nothing. Rice? Zip. NASA? Nata. Oil? No. Hmm....maybe you can convince me otherwise (or not).
How about a more well rounded economy?
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Old 10-06-2009, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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This is an old debate that has been going on in Texas for decades. As far I'm concerned, they're tied. If Dallas is ahead of Houston, or vice-versa, it's not by much.
Agreed and beautifully put.
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Old 10-06-2009, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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How about a more well rounded economy?
Since when has a more diverse economy equaled more importance.
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Old 10-06-2009, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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Since when has a more diverse economy equaled more importance.
Its a characteristic of stability. Stability is a factor in importance.
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Old 10-06-2009, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Denver
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I can see a case made for Houston over Dallas, but not the other way around. I've heard Dallas people claim their importance in oil, but I've never seen any proof of it. Is there any way we can get facts for a head-to-head comparison between Dallas & Houston flexing their oil power so we can get to the bottom of this?

Other than that, what does Dallas have? LAnative, you claim Dallas is bigger than Houston in finance, but it doesn't rank in the Top 8 for the continent or the Top 75 in the world (see p.19)...so I don't think you could consider Dallas' financial services power to be a contributing factor to their national importance.

I don't know much about Dallas, so I wouldn't mind someone educating me on their strong points, but after doing a little bit of research it seems they've got a lot of telecom cos in the Metroplex area, along with a great number of retail HQs.

JLuke, you mention Biotechnology as Houston's strengths, but what is there in Houston for biotech? I know TMC is there for medical research, but what private companies are located in the Houston area which would show the regions biotech power?
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Old 10-06-2009, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Its a characteristic of stability. Stability is a factor in importance.
Stability is important to the city regionally, but how does that benefit the nation and the world? You could have the most stable economy in the entire country, but what national contribution by Dallas should someone in Boston care about?

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