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Old 10-11-2009, 11:12 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Originally Posted by thePR View Post
Are you ranking airports or cities here?

Because if you're ranking airports Atlanta is the hub for the whole south and would be number one followed after Chicago.
No it's not. It's the Hub for Delta. But if you're flying AA, the hub is either Miami or DFW. If you're flying Continental, it's Houston. If you're flying USAir, it's Charlotte.
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Old 10-12-2009, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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No it's not. It's the Hub for Delta. But if you're flying AA, the hub is either Miami or DFW. If you're flying Continental, it's Houston. If you're flying USAir, it's Charlotte.
Indeed. If you originate in DFW or IAH, theres no reason in the world to stop in Atlanta for really anything. Both DFW and IAH offer lots of nonstops to Europe, Central and South America. DFW and IAH also have nonstop flights to Tokyo for Asian connections. DFW also has Korean Air with nonstop flights to Seoul and IAH has Singapore Airlines with 1-stop flights to Singapore. Not to mention mulitple nonstops to any city in the country.

Both DFW and IAH (like ATL) pretty much have everything covered.
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Old 10-12-2009, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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When I say south (in this case) I'm talking Georgia, Arkansas, Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, South Carolina, Tennessee, North Carolina.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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THIS WAS IN RESPONSE TO POST #710

I did .You ignored it or either came late.
Those list where Atlanta also clearly ranked higher in some cases.In all cases still ranked higher than HOU/Dallas.Never said there was a huge gap.Once again I "said all the cities could have a case made for their inclusion".

Funny how you ignored the conversation about Houston being included by different posters.You also ignore the fact that even though SOME people cannot see Atlanta being it ,clearly their are a couple of studies that say otherwise.I did not make it up.

The other thing is ,Dallas is considered by more people to be the forerunner than Houston,yet its the Houston supporters crying foul the most.Just about every study shows Houston BEHIND Dallas.

Once again since you were not paying attention:
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While New York, Chicago, and Los Angeles are the U.S. leaders in global connectivity, San Francisco, Miami, Atlanta, and Washington are also important nodes in the world city network.

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A mixture of regional capitals—such as Boston and Seattle—and specialist cities—such as Houston, the world's energy capital—are found in the next tier.

U.S. Cities in the 'World City Network' - Brookings Institution
http://www.brookings.edu/metro/pubs/...orldcities.pdf

Education/Research:


5th in Higher Education in Research Spending.
Nanotechnology?
With the completion of the construction
of the Marcus Nanotechnology Building
year-end 2008, Georgia Tech is poised
to become one of the world leaders in
nanotechnology research.




Quote:
“Only a
handful of BSL-4
(biosafety level 4)
labs exist around
the country.”
Atlanta has two:
at the Centers
for Disease
Control and
Prevention and
Georgia State
University


Several globally recognized research centers are
headquartered in metro Atlanta, including the
U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
and the Yerkes Primate Center. Atlanta is also
home to the American Cancer Society and the
Arthritis Foundation.




ARCHE Report: The Atlanta Region: National Leader in Higher Education

Culture:
Cultural Tourism Centers
1)NYC
2)L.A.
3)Chicago
4)Boston
5)D.C.
6)Atlanta
7)Dallas
8)Houston
9)Minneapolis
10)San Francisco

Logistic/Transpotation
The Nation's 5th Largest Logistics Employer

Rank Metro Name Employment
1 Los Angeles-Long Beach, CA 127,715
2 Chicago, IL 112,536
3 New York, NY 102,377
4 Boston, MA* 99,659
5 ATLANTA, GA 91,910
6 Seattle-Bellevue-Everett, WA 78,570
7 Dallas, TX 75,767
8 Washington, DC-MD-VA-WV 74,831
9 San Francisco, CA 74,389
10 Houston, TX 66,739

UPS, a $50 billion corporation and the world's
largest package delivery company, is headquartered
in Atlanta. Also a leading global provider
of specialized transportation and logistics services,
UPS has three hubs and package centers
scattered throughout metro Atlanta.

Infrastructure:
15th in the World.#1 in North America.
Mercer Quality of Living global city rankings 2009
Quote:
Metro Atlanta ranks in the top five U.S. markets
for total bandwidth and fiber access. The metro
area is also a hub for the country’s two largest
fiber trunk lines that feed Europe, Asia and
South America.
Energy: Georgia Power is the largest subsidiary of the
Southern Company, the largest generator of
electricity in the U.S.

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Old 10-12-2009, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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Originally Posted by afonega1 View Post
I did .You ignored it or either came late.
Those list where Atlanta also clearly ranked higher in some cases.In all cases still ranked higher than HOU/Dallas.Never said there was a huge gap.Once again I "said all the cities could have a case made for their inclusion".

Funny how you ignored the conversation about Houston being included by different posters.You also ignore the fact that even though SOME people cannot see Atlanta being it ,clearly their are a couple of studies that say otherwise.I did not make it up.

The other thing is ,Dallas is considered by more people to be the forerunner than Houston,yet its the Houston supporters crying foul the most.Just about every study shows Houston BEHIND Dallas.

Once again since you were not paying attention:


U.S. Cities in the 'World City Network' - Brookings Institution
http://www.brookings.edu/metro/pubs/...orldcities.pdf

Education/Research:


5th in Higher Education in Research Spending.
Nanotechnology?
With the completion of the construction
of the Marcus Nanotechnology Building
year-end 2008, Georgia Tech is poised
to become one of the world leaders in
nanotechnology research.






Several globally recognized research centers are
headquartered in metro Atlanta, including the
U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
and the Yerkes Primate Center. Atlanta is also
home to the American Cancer Society and the
Arthritis Foundation.




ARCHE Report: The Atlanta Region: National Leader in Higher Education

Culture:
Cultural Tourism Centers
1)NYC
2)L.A.
3)Chicago
4)Boston
5)D.C.
6)Atlanta
7)Dallas
8)Houston
9)Minneapolis
10)San Francisco

Logistic/Transpotation
The Nation's 5th Largest Logistics Employer

Rank Metro Name Employment
1 Los Angeles-Long Beach, CA 127,715
2 Chicago, IL 112,536
3 New York, NY 102,377
4 Boston, MA* 99,659
5 ATLANTA, GA 91,910
6 Seattle-Bellevue-Everett, WA 78,570
7 Dallas, TX 75,767
8 Washington, DC-MD-VA-WV 74,831
9 San Francisco, CA 74,389
10 Houston, TX 66,739

UPS, a $50 billion corporation and the world's
largest package delivery company, is headquartered
in Atlanta. Also a leading global provider
of specialized transportation and logistics services,
UPS has three hubs and package centers
scattered throughout metro Atlanta.

Infrastructure:
15th in the World.#1 in North America.
Mercer Quality of Living global city rankings 2009

Energy: Georgia Power is the largest subsidiary of the
Southern Company, the largest generator of
electricity in the U.S.
Wow......I'm impressed. However, it still isn't top 5 material.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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Wow......I'm impressed. However, it still isn't top 5 material.
Apparently neither is Houston.Must be hard living in Dallas' Shadow.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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Originally Posted by afonega1 View Post
Apparently neither is Houston.Must be hard living in Dallas' Shadow.
aww.....If only that was true.

BTW, I love Dallas; more power to them!
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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Originally Posted by LAnative10 View Post
Indeed. If you originate in DFW or IAH, theres no reason in the world to stop in Atlanta for really anything. Both DFW and IAH offer lots of nonstops to Europe, Central and South America. DFW and IAH also have nonstop flights to Tokyo for Asian connections. DFW also has Korean Air with nonstop flights to Seoul and IAH has Singapore Airlines with 1-stop flights to Singapore. Not to mention mulitple nonstops to any city in the country.

Both DFW and IAH (like ATL) pretty much have everything covered.
Oh and btw.Here is the list of STATES with largest foreign born populations.Over 80% of the people live in Metro Atlanta.The change between in Atlanta from 1990-2000(Census) was ranked at #2 with a 233% increase.From 2000-2007 it ranked #7 with a 50.4%increase.I'm sure a lot of that growth is from Asians.
States Ranked by Percent Change in the Foreign-Born Population: 1990, 2000, and 2007
(Table sorted by 2007 figures)
1990 2000 2007 Change 1990 to 2000 Change 2000 to 2007
State Estimate Estimate Estimate Percent change Rank Percent change Rank
South Carolina 49,964 115,978 190,014 132.1% 11 63.8% 1
Arkansas 24,867 73,690 118,405 196.3% 4 60.7% 2
Nevada 104,828 316,593 497,821 202.0% 3 57.2% 3
Tennessee 59,114 159,004 249,552 169.0% 6 56.9% 4
Alabama 43,533 87,772 137,275 101.6% 17 56.4% 5
Arizona 278,205 656,183 991,584 135.9% 9 51.1% 6
Georgia 173,126 577,273 868,413 233.4% 2 50.4% 7
Delaware 22,275 44,898 65,821 101.6% 18 46.6% 8
North Carolina 115,077 430,000 629,947 273.7% 1 46.5% 9
Wyoming 7,647 11,205 16,360 46.5% 35 46.0% 10
Indiana 94,263 186,534 263,848 97.9% 20 41.4% 11
Virginia 311,809 570,279 794,246 82.9% 25 39.3% 12
Oklahoma 65,489 131,747 182,186 101.2% 19 38.3% 13
Missouri 83,633 151,196 208,121 80.8% 26 37.6% 14
Utah 58,600 158,664 215,757 170.8% 5 36.0% 15
Kentucky 34,119 80,271 107,833 135.3% 10 34.3% 16
Maryland 313,494 518,315 694,590 65.3% 28 34.0% 17
Minnesota 113,039 260,463 345,001 130.4% 12 32.5% 18
Texas 1,524,436 2,899,642 3,828,904 90.2% 23 32.0% 19
Nebraska 28,198 74,638 98,512 164.7% 7 32.0% 20
Alaska 24,814 37,170 48,928 49.8% 33 31.6% 21
Colorado 142,434 369,903 485,170 159.7% 8 31.2% 22
Idaho 28,905 64,080 83,904 121.7% 13 30.9% 23
Pennsylvania 369,316 508,291 665,176 37.6% 36 30.9% 24
Wisconsin 121,547 193,751 252,150 59.4% 31 30.1% 25
Washington 322,144 614,457 795,179 90.7% 22 29.4% 26
Iowa 43,316 91,085 117,437 110.3% 15 28.9% 27
Florida 1,662,601 2,670,828 3,440,918 60.6% 29 28.8% 28
North Dakota 9,388 12,114 15,586 29.0% 46 28.7% 29
Oregon 139,307 289,702 367,551 108.0% 16 26.9% 30
New Hampshire 41,193 54,154 67,735 31.5% 43 25.1% 31
Kansas 62,840 134,735 167,085 114.4% 14 24.0% 32
Mississippi 20,383 39,908 49,483 95.8% 21 24.0% 33
Louisiana 87,407 115,885 143,267 32.6% 40 23.6% 34
Ohio 259,673 339,279 419,443 30.7% 44 23.6% 35
United States 19,767,316 31,107,889 38,059,694 57.4% 22.3%
New Mexico 80,514 149,606 182,936 85.8% 24 22.3% 36
Connecticut 279,383 369,967 449,661 32.4% 42 21.5% 37
Maine 36,296 36,691 44,464 1.1% 51 21.2% 38
West Virginia 15,712 19,390 23,455 23.4% 49 21.0% 39
Massachusetts 573,733 772,983 913,957 34.7% 39 18.2% 40
New Jersey 966,610 1,476,327 1,731,202 52.7% 32 17.3% 41
Michigan 355,393 523,589 609,457 47.3% 34 16.4% 42
Illinois 952,272 1,529,058 1,768,518 60.6% 30 15.7% 43
California 6,458,825 8,864,255 10,024,352 37.2% 37 13.1% 44
Rhode Island 95,088 119,277 134,823 25.4% 47 13.0% 45
New York 2,851,861 3,868,133 4,205,813 35.6% 38 8.7% 46
South Dakota 7,731 13,495 14,530 74.6% 27 7.7% 47
Hawaii 162,704 212,229 221,448 30.4% 45 4.3% 48
District of Columbia 58,887 73,561 74,409 24.9% 48 1.2% 49
Montana 13,779 16,396 16,057 19.0% 50 -2.1% 50
Vermont 17,544 23,245 21,410 32.5% 41 -7.9% 51

http://www.migrationpolicy.org/pubs/...ng-GEORGIA.pdf

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Old 10-12-2009, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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Oh and btw.Here is the list of STATES with largest foreign born populations.Over 80% of the people live in Metro Atlanta.The change between in Atlanta from 1990-2000(Census) was ranked at #2 with a 233% increase.From 2000-2007 it ranked #7 with a 50.4%increase.I'm sure a lot of that growth is from Asians.
States Ranked by Percent Change in the Foreign-Born Population: 1990, 2000, and 2007
(Table sorted by 2007 figures)
1990 2000 2007 Change 1990 to 2000 Change 2000 to 2007
State Estimate Estimate Estimate Percent change Rank Percent change Rank
South Carolina 49,964 115,978 190,014 132.1% 11 63.8% 1
Arkansas 24,867 73,690 118,405 196.3% 4 60.7% 2
Nevada 104,828 316,593 497,821 202.0% 3 57.2% 3
Tennessee 59,114 159,004 249,552 169.0% 6 56.9% 4
Alabama 43,533 87,772 137,275 101.6% 17 56.4% 5
Arizona 278,205 656,183 991,584 135.9% 9 51.1% 6
Georgia 173,126 577,273 868,413 233.4% 2 50.4% 7
Delaware 22,275 44,898 65,821 101.6% 18 46.6% 8
North Carolina 115,077 430,000 629,947 273.7% 1 46.5% 9
Wyoming 7,647 11,205 16,360 46.5% 35 46.0% 10
Indiana 94,263 186,534 263,848 97.9% 20 41.4% 11
Virginia 311,809 570,279 794,246 82.9% 25 39.3% 12
Oklahoma 65,489 131,747 182,186 101.2% 19 38.3% 13
Missouri 83,633 151,196 208,121 80.8% 26 37.6% 14
Utah 58,600 158,664 215,757 170.8% 5 36.0% 15
Kentucky 34,119 80,271 107,833 135.3% 10 34.3% 16
Maryland 313,494 518,315 694,590 65.3% 28 34.0% 17
Minnesota 113,039 260,463 345,001 130.4% 12 32.5% 18
Texas 1,524,436 2,899,642 3,828,904 90.2% 23 32.0% 19
Nebraska 28,198 74,638 98,512 164.7% 7 32.0% 20
Alaska 24,814 37,170 48,928 49.8% 33 31.6% 21
Colorado 142,434 369,903 485,170 159.7% 8 31.2% 22
Idaho 28,905 64,080 83,904 121.7% 13 30.9% 23
Pennsylvania 369,316 508,291 665,176 37.6% 36 30.9% 24
Wisconsin 121,547 193,751 252,150 59.4% 31 30.1% 25
Washington 322,144 614,457 795,179 90.7% 22 29.4% 26
Iowa 43,316 91,085 117,437 110.3% 15 28.9% 27
Florida 1,662,601 2,670,828 3,440,918 60.6% 29 28.8% 28
North Dakota 9,388 12,114 15,586 29.0% 46 28.7% 29
Oregon 139,307 289,702 367,551 108.0% 16 26.9% 30
New Hampshire 41,193 54,154 67,735 31.5% 43 25.1% 31
Kansas 62,840 134,735 167,085 114.4% 14 24.0% 32
Mississippi 20,383 39,908 49,483 95.8% 21 24.0% 33
Louisiana 87,407 115,885 143,267 32.6% 40 23.6% 34
Ohio 259,673 339,279 419,443 30.7% 44 23.6% 35
United States 19,767,316 31,107,889 38,059,694 57.4% 22.3%
New Mexico 80,514 149,606 182,936 85.8% 24 22.3% 36
Connecticut 279,383 369,967 449,661 32.4% 42 21.5% 37
Maine 36,296 36,691 44,464 1.1% 51 21.2% 38
West Virginia 15,712 19,390 23,455 23.4% 49 21.0% 39
Massachusetts 573,733 772,983 913,957 34.7% 39 18.2% 40
New Jersey 966,610 1,476,327 1,731,202 52.7% 32 17.3% 41
Michigan 355,393 523,589 609,457 47.3% 34 16.4% 42
Illinois 952,272 1,529,058 1,768,518 60.6% 30 15.7% 43
California 6,458,825 8,864,255 10,024,352 37.2% 37 13.1% 44
Rhode Island 95,088 119,277 134,823 25.4% 47 13.0% 45
New York 2,851,861 3,868,133 4,205,813 35.6% 38 8.7% 46
South Dakota 7,731 13,495 14,530 74.6% 27 7.7% 47
Hawaii 162,704 212,229 221,448 30.4% 45 4.3% 48
District of Columbia 58,887 73,561 74,409 24.9% 48 1.2% 49
Montana 13,779 16,396 16,057 19.0% 50 -2.1% 50
Vermont 17,544 23,245 21,410 32.5% 41 -7.9% 51
Thats all well and good. I would imagine that Atlanta would capture almost all of the foreign born population in Georgia. Other than the Atlanta area, there really isnt another magnet for foreign born residents. Texas on the other hand is a magnet in itself for Mexicans coming into the US. Dallas and Houston attract people from all over the world.

Again this states what we already know. Atlanta has a higher percentage of its foreign born residents that are not from Latin America and a larger percentage of Dallas' and Houstons' total population is foreign born and Dallas and Houston also have much larger foreign populations numerically. Percentage wise Atlanta is getting more foreign faster, however numerically (means more people overall not based on percentage) Dallas and Houston are getting more foreign faster. That pretty much goes for Latino's and Asians.
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Old 10-12-2009, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Originally Posted by afonega1 View Post
THIS WAS IN RESPONSE TO POST #710

I did .You ignored it or either came late.
Those list where Atlanta also clearly ranked higher in some cases.In all cases still ranked higher than HOU/Dallas.Never said there was a huge gap.Once again I "said all the cities could have a case made for their inclusion".

Funny how you ignored the conversation about Houston being included by different posters.You also ignore the fact that even though SOME people cannot see Atlanta being it ,clearly their are a couple of studies that say otherwise.I did not make it up.

The other thing is ,Dallas is considered by more people to be the forerunner than Houston,yet its the Houston supporters crying foul the most.Just about every study shows Houston BEHIND Dallas.

Once again since you were not paying attention:


U.S. Cities in the 'World City Network' - Brookings Institution
http://www.brookings.edu/metro/pubs/...orldcities.pdf

Education/Research:


5th in Higher Education in Research Spending.
Nanotechnology?
With the completion of the construction
of the Marcus Nanotechnology Building
year-end 2008, Georgia Tech is poised
to become one of the world leaders in
nanotechnology research.






Several globally recognized research centers are
headquartered in metro Atlanta, including the
U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
and the Yerkes Primate Center. Atlanta is also
home to the American Cancer Society and the
Arthritis Foundation.




ARCHE Report: The Atlanta Region: National Leader in Higher Education

Culture:
Cultural Tourism Centers
1)NYC
2)L.A.
3)Chicago
4)Boston
5)D.C.
6)Atlanta
7)Dallas
8)Houston
9)Minneapolis
10)San Francisco

Logistic/Transpotation
The Nation's 5th Largest Logistics Employer

Rank Metro Name Employment
1 Los Angeles-Long Beach, CA 127,715
2 Chicago, IL 112,536
3 New York, NY 102,377
4 Boston, MA* 99,659
5 ATLANTA, GA 91,910
6 Seattle-Bellevue-Everett, WA 78,570
7 Dallas, TX 75,767
8 Washington, DC-MD-VA-WV 74,831
9 San Francisco, CA 74,389
10 Houston, TX 66,739

UPS, a $50 billion corporation and the world's
largest package delivery company, is headquartered
in Atlanta. Also a leading global provider
of specialized transportation and logistics services,
UPS has three hubs and package centers
scattered throughout metro Atlanta.

Infrastructure:
15th in the World.#1 in North America.
Mercer Quality of Living global city rankings 2009

Energy: Georgia Power is the largest subsidiary of the
Southern Company, the largest generator of
electricity in the U.S.
No you didn't post the link. I went back and checked.

I never said that Houston should be ranked above Dallas. In my opinion, it's too close to call. I've just been talking about Houston because I know the city much better than Dallas

Again your isolating facts to support you opinion. Lets forget about Houston and Dallas for a second (which you still haven't put up a good argument for Atlanta to be ranked above either one). In almost every list posted Boston ranked above Atlanta. The only list you gave were Atlanta ranked above Boston was in number of college enrollment. If your making the argument that Atlanta surpasses Boston and SF in higher eduction and research, good luck with that. You still haven't proven that Atlanta even passes Houston in research (no just university research).
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