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Old 09-28-2011, 02:33 AM
 
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Brooklyn is the most gerrymandered county in the country the most Conservative areas are divided in ways that split different Conservative ethnic groups in to more liberal districts. For example the ED's adjacent to Bob Turner's were some of the most McCain EDs in the country.
It's gerrymandered on every level? Local, State, and Federal? Evidence?
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Old 09-28-2011, 04:01 AM
 
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It's gerrymandered on every level? Local, State, and Federal? Evidence?
Boro Park is split in to 5 State Senate Districts.
Flatbush (what Jews call Flatbush) is split in to 6 or 7 (depends how you want to draw the boundaries Assembly districts and 5 Congressional districts. (the most in any Neighborhood in the state and 5 Congressional districts is 2 more Congressional districts then any Neighborhood in the country)

City Council (look at district 39 and how it goes along the 44th district right through the most Conservative area in NY the North part is in the most liberal part of Brooklyn)
crg: Brooklyn City Council District Map

the Jewish Community in Williamsburg is split in the Assembly and City Council.
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Old 09-28-2011, 04:55 AM
 
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Fascinating, thanks.
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Old 09-28-2011, 06:12 AM
 
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People need to stop conflating liberal with Democrat voting and conservative with Republican voting. They're often the same, but not always. Places like Boston, NYC, and Chicago vote democrat but I wouldn't place them among the most liberal cities. Cubans often vote Republican, but I don't know if I'd call them conservative.
So, do you have another idea for an objective measure of liberal vs. conservative, other than voting patterns?
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Old 09-28-2011, 06:39 AM
 
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I think how places vote on ballot initiatives might give a better sense than how they vote by party. Downside of that is some states don't do initiatives that much.

Other possible measures could be say a mix of income-inequality levels (Left) and "gay index" (Progressive). Some parts of the Bay Area look fairly low on income disparity and tend to have a high "gay index." Also maybe the DC area.

http://www.city-data.com/top2/h173.html
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Old 09-28-2011, 07:05 AM
 
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looking at a map of NYC income-inequality levels
MAP OF THE DAY: Inequality Increases In New York City
I would say this holds true to a large extent but not completely see Bay Ridge, Belle Harbor and Manhattan Beach for the exceptions which are all pretty Conservative places though not the most Conservative in the city.
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Old 09-28-2011, 07:14 AM
 
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So, do you have another idea for an objective measure of liberal vs. conservative, other than voting patterns?
how about primary voting if you know the all the relevant detail of the race.
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Old 09-28-2011, 08:51 AM
 
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I would say austin would have to be on the list of most liberal cities. Consider that its surrounded by as conservative as it basically can get in the U.S. and its still liberal. Now you may think oh thats just compared to the rest of the state but for any standard its liberal. What is liberal- liberal is accepting of all races, General spread of welfare, and just really caring about everything and everyone. If we were our own state we would be even more liberal. Austinites the people who were born here are all super liberal. The people who just moved here they are from places like New York and California, from cities like San francisco and New York and us Austinites consider them to be very conservative just sayin.
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Old 10-31-2011, 09:47 PM
 
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For conservative cities, without that much knowledge about the US. I would say

1. Colorado Springs
2. Fort Worth
3. Tulsa
4. Oklahoma City
5. Dallas (liberal city core, but the rest is very conservative)
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Old 11-01-2011, 07:38 AM
 
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Table 1: Top Twenty-Five Most Conservative Cities
Rank City State
1 Provo Utah
2 Lubbock Texas
3 Abilene Texas
4 Hialeah Florida
5 Plano Texas
6 Colorado Springs Colorado
7 Gilbert Arizona
8 Bakersfield California
9 Lafayette Louisiana
10 Orange California
11 Escondido California
12 Allentown Pennsylvania
13 Mesa Arizona
14 Arlington Texas
15 Peoria Arizona
16 Cape Coral Florida
17 Garden Grove California
18 Simi Valley California
19 Corona California
20 Clearwater Florida
21 West Valley City Utah
22 Oklahoma City Oklahoma
23 Overland Park Kansas
24 Anchorage Alaska
25 Huntington Beach California

Table 2: Top Twenty-Five Most Liberal Cities
Rank City State
1 Detroit Michigan
2 Gary Indiana
3 Berkeley California
4 District of Columbia
5 Oakland California
6 Inglewood California
7 Newark New Jersey
8 Cambridge Massachusetts
9 San Francisco California
10 Flint Michigan
11 Cleveland Ohio
12 Hartford Connecticut
13 Paterson New Jersey
14 Baltimore Maryland
15 New Haven Connecticut
16 Seattle Washington
17 Chicago Illinois
18 Philadelphia Pennsylvania
19 Birmingham Alabama
20 St. Louis Missouri
21 New York New York
22 Providence Rhode Island
23 Minneapolis Minnesota
24 Boston Massachusetts
25 Buffalo New York

Source: The Most Conservative and Liberal
Cities in the United States

Detroit, Michigan and Provo, Utah each top the Bay Area Center for Voting Research’s(BACVR) lists of the nation’s most liberal and conservative cities, respectively. Surveying United States cities with a population over 100,000, BACVR found that the top twenty-five most liberal and conservative cities in America come from a wide variety of regions across the nation.

http://alt.coxnewsweb.com/statesman/...081205libs.pdf
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