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View Poll Results: If given the finances and opportunity, which city would you move to:
Seattle 90 44.78%
New York City 111 55.22%
Voters: 201. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-28-2010, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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The second city (slipping into irrelevance with its plummeting population and its second class culture) aka Chicago is much filthier than Seattle.

If clean and green are your sole requirements, you've failed miserably with the selection of Chicago. How laughable.

Try Seattle.
Whatever you need to tell yourself, Dementor.
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Old 02-28-2010, 09:39 PM
 
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Yea, tell me about it. There's actually some pretty good stuff even within reach of public transportation (which is amazing) and almost no one here I've met here knows of it (much less have any interest when told about it). I kind of want to slap them with a fat cod.
Less than an hour from NYC is one of the most beautiful places I have ever seen: Kaaterskill Falls. A two-tier waterfall that is just a quarter mile hike away from free parking. It is BREATHTAKING, especially in the fall when all the trees change color and the golden leaves lie in the stream and pools like golden coins in some giant's lair:

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But, NONE of the New Yorkers I know have ever heard of it and have no interest in seeing it or any of the other natural beauty of New York state. They would rather have a half million dollar summer share for two weeks at the Hamptons to "be seen" than ever go out and see the mountains that inspired the great artists Hudson River school of landscape paintings. Thing is, in those beautiful mountains and forests, there is no one there to see you in your "it" outfit and one cannot wear high heels while hiking, so for a New New Yorker "like, ohh my gawd like, what's the point? That is so, like, not fabulous!"

However, I have yet to meet one person from Seattle who did not mention Mount Rainer, North Cascades or Olympic National park in their short list of why Seattle is such a great city.
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Old 02-28-2010, 09:45 PM
 
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Less than an hour from NYC is one of the most beautiful places I have ever seen: Kaaterskill Falls. A two-tier waterfall that is just a quarter mile hike away from free parking. It is BREATHTAKING, especially in the fall when all the trees change color and the golden leaves lie in the stream and pools like golden coins in some giant's lair:

kaaterskill falls - Google Search


But, NONE of the New Yorkers I know have ever heard of it and have no interest in seeing it or any of the other natural beauty of New York state. They would rather have a half million dollar summer share for two weeks at the Hamptons to "be seen" than ever go out and see the mountains that inspired the great artists Hudson River school of landscape paintings. Thing is, in those beautiful mountains and forests, there is no one there to see you in your "it" outfit and one cannot wear high heels while hiking, so for a New New Yorker "like, ohh my gawd like, what's the point? That is so, like, not fabulous!"

However, I have yet to meet one person from Seattle who did not mention Mount Rainer, North Cascades or Olympic National park in their short list of why Seattle is such a great city.
Fantastic post...(I love sarcasm!)

Two weeks of "being seen" is so darn important!
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Old 02-28-2010, 09:48 PM
 
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There is one thing NO ONE can deny Seattle beats NYC in...smell. I am sorry, but my nose does work, and few things in my life make me want to gag as much as being in NYC in the summer, where it routinely hits 90-100 degrees, and smelling all the rotting garbage, the unwashed bodies, the filth, the smog, and the way-too-much perfume from the fashion-victims that call NYC home all stewing together in one big pot.

Not to mention that "WTF" smell of the subway platforms in the summer time... Words cannot explain what the smell of the garbage, the rat poison, and the smell of so many sweating bodies packed together in that inferno is like.

In Seattle, it rarely gets to 90 degrees and when the wind is blowing right, the scent of the forest on the Olympic pennisula carries over the sound and you just smell a faint pine smell in the air all around the city (real pine, not the fake smell coming off that little cardboard tree in the taxi cab)

Sounds like a small thing, but I could not imagine living in NYC and having to smell that every single day.

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Old 02-28-2010, 09:51 PM
 
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There is one thing NO ONE can deny Seattle beats NYC in...smell. I am sorry, but my noise does work, and few things in my life make me want to gag as much as being in NYC in the summer, where it routinely hits 90-100 degrees, and smelling all the rotting garbage, the unwashed bodies, the filth, the smog, and the way-too-much perfume from the fashion-victims that call NYC home all stewing together in one big pot.

Not to mention that "WTF" smell of the subway platforms in the summer time... Words cannot explain how the smell of the garbage, the rat poison, and the smell of so many swetting bodies packed together in that inferno is like.

In Seattle, it rarely gets to to 90 degrees and when the wind is blowing right, the scent of the forest on the Olympic pennisula carries over the sound and you just smell a faint pine smell in the air all around the city (real pine, not the fake smell coming off that little cardboard tree in the taxi cab)

Sounds like a small thing, but I could not imagine living in NYC and having to smell that every single day.
Ya summers in New York are brutal compared to Seattle. Another thing you mention is the air quality which I notice is significantly worse in NYC.

All and all I will say that people in NYC just are not very outdoorsy. And like a poster stated above they would rather be seen in some crappy place like the Hamptons. Thats ok not every place can be the same... Oh well
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Old 02-28-2010, 10:43 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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The question read: Which of these fascinating U.S. cities would you move to if given the finances and opportunity to move to, Seattle or New York City? Why? The question is totally fair.
We know New York is the all mighty but given the finances I would definately move to Seattle. And since I have lived in NY and live in Seattle now Seattle is my choice. Cheaper, greener, cleaner, less crowded. Unsurpassed natural beauty(which I never get tired of looking at), dense hoods along with beautiful single family hoods, no blizzards, no oppressive heat and humidity. I also met many New Yorkers making Seattle their new home.
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Old 02-28-2010, 10:45 PM
 
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Plus, flannel shirts are retro cool!
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Old 02-28-2010, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Tribeca
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The question read: Which of these fascinating U.S. cities would you move to if given the finances and opportunity to move to, Seattle or New York City? Why? The question is totally fair.
We know New York is the all mighty but given the finances I would definately move to Seattle. And since I have lived in NY and live in Seattle now Seattle is my choice. Cheaper, greener, cleaner, less crowded. Unsurpassed natural beauty(which I never get tired of looking at), dense hoods along with beautiful single family hoods, no blizzards, no oppressive heat and humidity. I also met many New Yorkers making Seattle their new home.
That's what old people like.

Even if then, there is this thing called Greenwich, Connecticut. Hello.
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Old 02-28-2010, 10:56 PM
 
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From this thread, NY'ers are generally quite defensive!
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Old 02-28-2010, 10:56 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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That's what old people like.

Even if then, there is this thing called Greenwich, Connecticut. Hello.
That's what old people like? What on earth are you talking about? And please don't bring in some town 30 miles outside of New York.
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