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Old 04-25-2009, 08:26 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Why do people on these forums (cough,cough, Dementor, cough, cough, constantlly rag on the Midwest as a boring, unclutured, conservative place with no culture of its own.


The Midwest has some amazing culture centers like the Twin Cities, Madison, Milwaukee, Ann Arbor, St. Louis, Columbus, Kansas City, Cincy, Cleveland, Indy, Bloomington, Larwence, heck even Detroit (and many more) that have just as much culture as the East Cosat.

And try as you might to deny it, the Midwest is home to one the world's great cities every bit as good as Paris, London, and New York in the form and Chicago.

And I still don't get why people think the Midwest is this baston of conservatism. Two of our history's most liberal movements-Populism and Progressivism-had their start in the Midwest. 6 out of the 11 Midwestern States were won by Obama. And what state just permitted Gay Marrage, New York? No. Iowa. Just listen to a John Mellencamp song if you need more evidence of the Midwest's liberalism.

Although I love San Francisco to death and wouldn't trade it for anything, I still miss the Midwest. There's few things finer in life than a Big 10 Saturday, family cookouts, and cornhole.
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Old 04-25-2009, 08:44 AM
 
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Well, I agree with Dementor

The midwest is boring with the exception of Chicago

And Mellencamp repulses me

He is a Springsteen knock off
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Old 04-25-2009, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Chicago - mudhole in the prairie...
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Why do people on these forums (cough,cough, Dementor, cough, cough, constantlly rag on the Midwest as a boring, unclutured, conservative place with no culture of its own.


The Midwest has some amazing culture centers like the Twin Cities, Madison, Milwaukee, Ann Arbor, St. Louis, Columbus, Kansas City, Cincy, Cleveland, Indy, Bloomington, Larwence, heck even Detroit (and many more) that have just as much culture as the East Cosat.

And try as you might to deny it, the Midwest is home to one the world's great cities every bit as good as Paris, London, and New York in the form and Chicago.

And I still don't get why people think the Midwest is this baston of conservatism. Two of our history's most liberal movements-Populism and Progressivism-had their start in the Midwest. 6 out of the 11 Midwestern States were won by Obama. And what state just permitted Gay Marrage, New York? No. Iowa. Just listen to a John Mellencamp song if you need more evidence of the Midwest's liberalism.

Although I love San Francisco to death and wouldn't trade it for anything, I still miss the Midwest. There's few things finer in life than a Big 10 Saturday, family cookouts, and cornhole.
I had a good laugh.
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Old 04-25-2009, 09:03 AM
 
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Why do people on these forums (cough,cough, Dementor, cough, cough, constantlly rag on the Midwest as a boring, unclutured, conservative place with no culture of its own.


The Midwest has some amazing culture centers like the Twin Cities, Madison, Milwaukee, Ann Arbor, St. Louis, Columbus, Kansas City, Cincy, Cleveland, Indy, Bloomington, Larwence, heck even Detroit (and many more) that have just as much culture as the East Cosat.

And try as you might to deny it, the Midwest is home to one the world's great cities every bit as good as Paris, London, and New York in the form and Chicago.

And I still don't get why people think the Midwest is this baston of conservatism. Two of our history's most liberal movements-Populism and Progressivism-had their start in the Midwest. 6 out of the 11 Midwestern States were won by Obama. And what state just permitted Gay Marrage, New York? No. Iowa. Just listen to a John Mellencamp song if you need more evidence of the Midwest's liberalism.

Although I love San Francisco to death and wouldn't trade it for anything, I still miss the Midwest. There's few things finer in life than a Big 10 Saturday, family cookouts, and cornhole.
Really, who cares what certain people think. It matters not.
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Old 04-25-2009, 09:23 AM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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Why do people on these forums (cough,cough, Dementor, cough, cough, constantlly rag on the Midwest as a boring, unclutured, conservative place with no culture of its own.


The Midwest has some amazing culture centers like the Twin Cities, Madison, Milwaukee, Ann Arbor, St. Louis, Columbus, Kansas City, Cincy, Cleveland, Indy, Bloomington, Larwence, heck even Detroit (and many more) that have just as much culture as the East Cosat.

And try as you might to deny it, the Midwest is home to one the world's great cities every bit as good as Paris, London, and New York in the form and Chicago.

And I still don't get why people think the Midwest is this baston of conservatism. Two of our history's most liberal movements-Populism and Progressivism-had their start in the Midwest. 6 out of the 11 Midwestern States were won by Obama. And what state just permitted Gay Marrage, New York? No. Iowa. Just listen to a John Mellencamp song if you need more evidence of the Midwest's liberalism.

Although I love San Francisco to death and wouldn't trade it for anything, I still miss the Midwest. There's few things finer in life than a Big 10 Saturday, family cookouts, and cornhole.
11? Don't you mean 12? The Midwestern states are Kansas, Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota, Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri, Wisconsin, Illinois, Michigan, Indiana, and Ohio. The other thing to note is that many of the Midwestern states Obama won were by a very narrow margin. He won 52% of the vote in Ohio, won by a very narrow margin in Indiana, and missed taking Missouri by only a couple thousand votes. That said, he solidly nailed Michigan, Illinois, Iowa, Wisconsin, and Minnesota. So including Indiana and Ohio that's 7 states in the Midwest he took. The Great Plains states, which are much more rural, were decidely conservative. That tends to be what makes the Midwest interesting to me. Generally blue in the urban areas and red in the rural areas.
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Old 04-25-2009, 09:30 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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I had a good laugh.
y? its true
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Old 04-25-2009, 09:32 AM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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Why do people on these forums (cough,cough, Dementor, cough, cough, constantlly rag on the Midwest as a boring, unclutured, conservative place with no culture of its own.


The Midwest has some amazing culture centers like the Twin Cities, Madison, Milwaukee, Ann Arbor, St. Louis, Columbus, Kansas City, Cincy, Cleveland, Indy, Bloomington, Larwence, heck even Detroit (and many more) that have just as much culture as the East Cosat.

And try as you might to deny it, the Midwest is home to one the world's great cities every bit as good as Paris, London, and New York in the form and Chicago.

And I still don't get why people think the Midwest is this baston of conservatism. Two of our history's most liberal movements-Populism and Progressivism-had their start in the Midwest. 6 out of the 11 Midwestern States were won by Obama. And what state just permitted Gay Marrage, New York? No. Iowa. Just listen to a John Mellencamp song if you need more evidence of the Midwest's liberalism.

Although I love San Francisco to death and wouldn't trade it for anything, I still miss the Midwest. There's few things finer in life than a Big 10 Saturday, family cookouts, and cornhole.
Perhaps you are asking the wrong question. Maybe you should be asking why people on this board who have never been in state XYZ, feel that are qualified to attack state XYZ. Its amazing how many "experts" on this board know the whole country like the back of their hands - and where they live NOW is the only decent place!
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Old 04-25-2009, 09:41 AM
 
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I like Chicago and hope to move there one day, but honestly it's not comparable to NYC. It's way bigger...But Chicago is still a world class city, just not one of the top ones.
But it can compare to Paris and London, economically because it's GDP was tied with Paris for 4th best in the world and London followed.
And most of the midwest is very liberal...(a negative in my opinion). The real conservative places are the Dakotas, but they aren't very populated.
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Old 04-25-2009, 09:51 AM
 
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11? Don't you mean 12? The Midwestern states are Kansas, Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota, Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri, Wisconsin, Illinois, Michigan, Indiana, and Ohio. The other thing to note is that many of the Midwestern states Obama won were by a very narrow margin. He won 52% of the vote in Ohio, won by a very narrow margin in Indiana, and missed taking Missouri by only a couple thousand votes. That said, he solidly nailed Michigan, Illinois, Iowa, Wisconsin, and Minnesota. So including Indiana and Ohio that's 7 states in the Midwest he took. The Great Plains states, which are much more rural, were decidely conservative. That tends to be what makes the Midwest interesting to me. Generally blue in the urban areas and red in the rural areas.
It's not just the Midwest that is like that.
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Old 04-25-2009, 11:47 AM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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Why do people on these forums (cough,cough, Dementor, cough, cough, constantlly rag on the Midwest as a boring, unclutured, conservative place with no culture of its own.


The Midwest has some amazing culture centers like the Twin Cities, Madison, Milwaukee, Ann Arbor, St. Louis, Columbus, Kansas City, Cincy, Cleveland, Indy, Bloomington, Larwence, heck even Detroit (and many more) that have just as much culture as the East Cosat.

And try as you might to deny it, the Midwest is home to one the world's great cities every bit as good as Paris, London, and New York in the form and Chicago.

And I still don't get why people think the Midwest is this baston of conservatism. Two of our history's most liberal movements-Populism and Progressivism-had their start in the Midwest. 6 out of the 11 Midwestern States were won by Obama. And what state just permitted Gay Marrage, New York? No. Iowa. Just listen to a John Mellencamp song if you need more evidence of the Midwest's liberalism.

Although I love San Francisco to death and wouldn't trade it for anything, I still miss the Midwest. There's few things finer in life than a Big 10 Saturday, family cookouts, and cornhole.
I agree...except that Chicago is every bit as good as Paris London and New York... I'd say it fails on all accounts when this is said which is my beef with Chicago "homers" ... great city,yes... nyc london paris? ..negative.
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