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View Poll Results: Which region is overall better?
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U.S. west coast
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U.S. east coast
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09-05-2009, 01:27 PM
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Location: Mid-Atlantic
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Originally Posted by Jlock2513
They are the east coast. All of these states have coastline on the Atlantic Ocean. They are also the SOUTHEAST. There's seems to be some confusion amongst people when it comes to states but all you got to do is look at a map to see that they on the east coast. Actually most of the states have more coastline than NY...
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Exactly  .
When I say the East Coast it means from Maine to Florida (sometimes to Texas). Yeah there were "cultural differences" but it's 2009, everbody's on the same page.
The East Coast has 3 regions (New England, Mid-Atlantic & the Southeast) but they all form the East Coast.
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09-05-2009, 01:37 PM
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Location: the heartland
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Originally Posted by Infamous92
Exactly  .
When I say the East Coast it means from Maine to Florida (sometimes to Texas). Yeah there were "cultural differences" but it's 2009, everbody's on the same page.
The East Coast has 3 regions (New England, Mid-Atlantic & the Southeast) but they all form the East Coast.
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Haha... you need to explore more b/c they are definitely NOT the same. Might as well be in a diff country, they just speak english... I know you mean well but I feel very strongly that they are not and I think many many many on this board will back me up that the SE is definitely not like the "east coast"
If everything was on the same page you wouldn't have such strong sentiment among so many people that they need to get out of, or get back to certain regions.
When I think of East coast I think of DC and up.
Where in the south did you live?
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09-05-2009, 02:15 PM
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Location: Mid-Atlantic
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Originally Posted by grapico
Haha... you need to explore more b/c they are definitely NOT the same. Might as well be in a diff country, they just speak english... I know you mean well but I feel very strongly that they are not and I think many many many on this board will back me up that the SE is definitely not like the "east coast"
If everything was on the same page you wouldn't have such strong sentiment among so many people that they need to get out of, or get back to certain regions.
When I think of East coast I think of DC and up.
Where in the south did you live?
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Its not that extreme.
I know what you're saying though, I have always lived in the Mid-Atlantic (various areas) which is both Northern & Southern so my opinion is a little different.
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09-05-2009, 04:04 PM
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Location: H-town!
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Originally Posted by Jlock2513
They are the east coast. All of these states have coastline on the Atlantic Ocean. They are also the SOUTHEAST. There's seems to be some confusion amongst people when it comes to states but all you got to do is look at a map to see that they on the east coast. Actually most of the states have more coastline than NY...
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It seems most people don't know squat about geography. FL through VA are the east coast. Yes they're the south and they're also the east coast. The northeastern states are the northeast and the east coast. It's a very simple concept. I don't why so many people can't grasp the concept.
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09-05-2009, 04:15 PM
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Okay, so it's fair that Hawaii could get included in the West, but now folks are trying to say that Florida is not the East coast? How fair is that? This is geographical.
The eastern seaboard is continuous whereas Hawaii is in the middle of the Pacific.
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09-05-2009, 04:53 PM
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Location: H-town!
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Originally Posted by 66nexus
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Yes Hawaii is definitely the west speaking from an American point of view. Since California is the west coast and Hawaii is west of California then Hawaii is definitely the west. Some people have the fallacious idea that the west is desert and mountains when that is not true. There is a lot of greenery in Oregon, California and Washington but since they're on the west coast they're definitely in the west. If someone thinks Hawaii is not in the west then the north pole must be south of here and FL to VA aren't on the east coast even though they're on the eastern edge of the U.S. and they border a big body of water called the Atlantic Ocean. It seems I need to school a lot of people on City-Data. I need to start charging consulting fees.
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09-05-2009, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 66nexus
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Obviously anyone saying that is not speaking geographically. The term "East Coast" is synonymous with the NE and is used in place of it. There is a major difference between the NE and the SE. FL is on the Eastern Seaboard so yes, it is geographically located along the East Coast. But culturally it is completely different (for the most part) from anything north of DC. The Western states have more in common with each other than the SE states have with the NE states. So that's what makes it fair. Its not about which side has more states along the coast (which the NE has regardless). And for the West, Alaska should be definitely be included both geographically and culturally.
If we're limiting it to the lower 48 and only speaking geographically, then the West Coast is only CA, OR and WA while the East Coast loses VT and PA. This is kind of pointless to discuss though b/c any of us can look at a map and there's no room for debate. The reality si that the land that spans the entire West Coast of the US is larger (when we're counting all 50 states), less densely populated, and more connected than its eastern counterpart. The East Coast is more heavily populated and split between the North and the South. So for discussion purposes there should be differentiation between the regions in the East, unless we're talking about what exists within various time zones or for weather patterns and such.
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09-05-2009, 05:48 PM
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Location: Mid-Atlantic
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Originally Posted by jman650
Obviously anyone saying that is not speaking geographically. The term "East Coast" is synonymous with the NE and is used in place of it. There is a major difference between the NE and the SE. FL is on the Eastern Seaboard so yes, it is geographically located along the East Coast. But culturally it is completely different (for the most part) from anything north of DC. The Western states have more in common with each other than the SE states have with the NE states. So that's what makes it fair. Its not about which side has more states along the coast (which the NE has regardless). And for the West, Alaska should be definitely be included both geographically and culturally.
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Really?
I can't picture SoCal & Alaska being similar in the cultural department, but I've never been to Alaska so I can't judge  .
The NE + The SE have a lot more in common than people think though.
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09-05-2009, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Frodo2008
Yes Hawaii is definitely the west speaking from an American point of view. Since California is the west coast and Hawaii is west of California then Hawaii is definitely the west. Some people have the fallacious idea that the west is desert and mountains when that is not true. There is a lot of greenery in Oregon, California and Washington but since they're on the west coast they're definitely in the west. If someone thinks Hawaii is not in the west then the north pole must be south of here and FL to VA aren't on the east coast even though they're on the eastern edge of the U.S. and they border a big body of water called the Atlantic Ocean. It seems I need to school a lot of people on City-Data. I need to start charging consulting fees.
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See...I love when people try fill in words for me. When was there an argument that Hawaii WASN'T in the West? I said people consider it part of the West COAST.  Hell, maybe I need to start charging fees myself.
It is a good idea to read a post before responding to it.
Last edited by 66nexus; 09-05-2009 at 06:11 PM..
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09-05-2009, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jman650
Obviously anyone saying that is not speaking geographically. The term "East Coast" is synonymous with the NE and is used in place of it. There is a major difference between the NE and the SE. FL is on the Eastern Seaboard so yes, it is geographically located along the East Coast. But culturally it is completely different (for the most part) from anything north of DC. The Western states have more in common with each other than the SE states have with the NE states. So that's what makes it fair. Its not about which side has more states along the coast (which the NE has regardless). And for the West, Alaska should be definitely be included both geographically and culturally.
If we're limiting it to the lower 48 and only speaking geographically, then the West Coast is only CA, OR and WA while the East Coast loses VT and PA. This is kind of pointless to discuss though b/c any of us can look at a map and there's no room for debate. The reality si that the land that spans the entire West Coast of the US is larger (when we're counting all 50 states), less densely populated, and more connected than its eastern counterpart. The East Coast is more heavily populated and split between the North and the South. So for discussion purposes there should be differentiation between the regions in the East, unless we're talking about what exists within various time zones or for weather patterns and such.
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It seems the you Western folks want to include Hawaii sooooo bad, but don't want the East to include Florida? It only makes it seem like you're trying to make up for some sense of inadequacy.
You also contradicted yourself. You said the West is less densely populated but yet more connected  ? The East IS densely populated and is better connected.
As far as culture is concerned what exactly what does Portland have in common with San Jose?? LA? Portland to Honolulu?? What do culture lines have to do with geographical ones?
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