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Old 05-03-2009, 10:42 AM
 
Location: NJ
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just throwing this out there, isnt a big percentage of San Frans population not even from Cali?...i think its like 1/3rd, you can prbly apply that to LA too since a lot of people transplant there. I know a lot of people from Jersey that went to the bay area, maybe its them that gave you that enlightened state of mind.

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Old 05-03-2009, 11:22 AM
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Location: Harrison, NJ
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Old 05-03-2009, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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Prop 8 barely passed. And I hate to say it, but a large majority of religious African-Americans who came out to vote for Obama were told by their pastors to vote yes. Otherwise, it wouldnt have even come close to passing. The point is not to slander African-Americans, but to point out that there was a disproportionate number of religious voters.
Yes because African Americans usually vote republican, but this election was the exception.
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Old 05-03-2009, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Teaneck, NJ
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What an ignorant, foolish, and crappy post.
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Old 05-03-2009, 12:04 PM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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Yes because African Americans usually vote republican, but this election was the exception.
we are talking about a proposition here on gay marriage, not dem vs. repub...which latinos and african americans did vote largely against.
conservative religious views doesn't necesarily == democrat

As for the OP... no.
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Old 05-03-2009, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Southeast Missouri
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More enlightened? I don't think so. Californians have their own way of life out there. No state is more intelligent than another. Some are more liberal.
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Old 05-03-2009, 04:10 PM
 
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The point is the turnout of religious African-America voters was much higher than ever before because of Obama.

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Yes because African Americans usually vote republican, but this election was the exception.
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Old 05-03-2009, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Cardboard box
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All personal experiences aside, if you look at california and their school system, which ranks 45 out 50 in k-12 (the only states that do worse are the other southwest states and a couple southern states) I would hardly think they are enlightened.

50 % of freshman entering CSU's (california's largest university system @ 400,000+ students) have to take remdial math and english (like the kind offered at junior colleges) because they are not ready for college level work. Hardly enlightened.

Don't play into the California dream hype, cuz that dream has been a nightmare for the past 30 years.

Calfornia's intellect is largley importated from various parts of the world. Primarilly from Asia, with the largest amount % wise concentrated around Silicon Valley as well as various universities.
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Old 05-03-2009, 06:40 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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California away from the coasts is generally not all that enlightened. Also, there's a pretty large population of poorly educated immigrants in California.

So on the whole--no, California is not more enlightened than NYC. If you want to compare the Bay Area with NYC, then yea, sure.

Also, Minnesota is a good example of an enlightened state compared to California.
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Old 05-03-2009, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Concrete jungle where dreams are made of.
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CA REALLY lacks in education when it comes to the rest of the country. CA is at the bottom when it comes to public schools. So I don't know how Californians are that much smarter. I like CA, don't get me wrong, but I just had to say that... People here in NY are probably more cultured as a whole too.
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