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View Poll Results: SF vs Chic
San Francisco 157 41.21%
Chicago 224 58.79%
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Old 12-09-2014, 07:48 PM
 
Location: 98004 / 30327
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It's sister city is Paris, which says quite a lot.
So is Chicago's.

List of twin towns and sister cities of Paris - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Chicago's a great city. SF is greater though. More iconic. More romantic. Less provincial and more unique.
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Old 12-09-2014, 07:51 PM
 
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I love both for completely different reasons. Chicago is simply a more refined city. And it's larger. But SF is a little more intense and in your face with a slightly more cosmopolitan/coastal vibe. I get a lot of similar vibes from SF that one gets in NYC, namely a bit of snobbery, a bit of bragging rights about the costs and hassles to live in the city with similar things going on between the two, the "center of the world feel" as it pertains to either everything, as in New York's case, or 21st century economy, as in SF's case, the fact that most people are pretty career oriented and not looking to settle down, the element of "sin" that comes with that, etc etc.

Chicago is probably overall a "better" city, however, I definitely prefer SF at this point in my life. At some point, though, the costs, the competitiveness that is encompassing SF, the particular hassles presented by the city such as really high density with no supportive transit, the homelessness, dirt/grime, lack of people looking to settle down, etc can wear on one's soul. These are not issues faced by most Chicagoans. By 40 I do not see myself in NYC or SF. The work culture in Boston or DC is no fun either. Probably see myself in Chicago, Denver, Seattle, Minneapolis, San Diego, or gasp, even LA.
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Old 12-09-2014, 07:52 PM
 
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So is Chicago's.

List of twin towns and sister cities of Paris - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Chicago's a great city. SF is greater though. More iconic. More romantic. Less provincial and more unique.

SF is known to be pretty provincial. It does things differently for a reason...and many things it does differently are clearly not working (talking policy - look no further than housing policy).
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Old 12-09-2014, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Nashville TN
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SF is better overall but Chicago is I think is more livable, its not as expensive to buy a condo. Chicago has a horrible winter thou. SF has better weather, if you can afford SF go for it. Chicago is a better city to start in for a college graduate, not as expensive as SF, NYC and LA.
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Old 12-09-2014, 08:25 PM
 
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SF is better overall but Chicago is I think is more livable, its not as expensive to buy a condo. Chicago has a horrible winter thou. SF has better weather, if you can afford SF go for it. Chicago is a better city to start in for a college graduate, not as expensive as SF, NYC and LA.
It's not a better city to start because it doesn't have world class job opportunities. Chicago doesn't really have an identity as for as the job market.

Who moves to Chicago to be an entertainer? For banking? For tech? For anything? It's a regional center, and nothing more.
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Old 12-09-2014, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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It's not a better city to start because it doesn't have world class job opportunities. Chicago doesn't really have an identity as for as the job market.

Who moves to Chicago to be an entertainer? For banking? For tech? For anything? It's a regional center, and nothing more.


Yeah, who would move to one of the world's major centers of finance for a job in banking? I mean, duh...
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Old 12-09-2014, 08:30 PM
 
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Yeah, who would move to one of the world's major centers of finance for a job in banking? I mean, duh...
Most of the Chicago bankers would get a much higher salary in NY. The best opportunities are there. Chicago is a great place to stay safe and not pay the higher cost of living of the more vibrant cities. Obviously it's not a bad place to live, but the other three are indisputably the hot spots. Anyway I think most young people would rather pay the slighter higher rent of San Francisco and the greater Bay area than Chicago.
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Old 12-09-2014, 08:49 PM
 
Location: East Central Pennsylvania/ Chicago for 6yrs.
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Time for another Chicago picture I see........
Are these depressing⤵ or lacking .
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Old 12-09-2014, 09:03 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Chicago can find better ways to deal with the winter, though it'd take a bit of funding.

Heated, sheltered el train platforms and bus shelters would be great. A larger, clean, clearly signed, well-lit and ventilated underground city (a vast expansion of and improvement upon Chicago's current pedway) such as that found in the similarly cold cities of Toronto and Montreal would be great, too.

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Old 12-09-2014, 09:25 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Chicago can find better ways to deal with the winter, though it'd take a bit of funding.

Heated, sheltered el train platforms and bus shelters would be great. A larger, clean, clearly signed, well-lit and ventilated underground city (a vast expansion of and improvement upon Chicago's current pedway) such as that found in the similarly cold cities of Toronto and Montreal would be great, too.
These things all sound lovely, but Chicago is not as cold as Montreal. The average high in January in Chicago is 31, which is 10 degrees warmer than it is in Montreal.

As for the upgrades, Chicago has L platforms that are a century old and that have seen little updates. Many are currently lined up to be updated, but the city isn't going to turn around and enclose the ones they already updated and or built in the last 10 years. Also, not all of the city's bus stops even have a shelter at this point.

Like I said, all lovely ideas, but they're not going to happen anytime soon.
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