Detroit vs Chicago (quality, cons, building, expensive)

[stillfresh]

nothing about what i typed was racist. looks like you're racist for thinking what i typed was racist.

[oakparkdude]

Originally Posted by Osito57

But race isn't the issue. The issue is the slums. And Chicago's slums dominate Chicago, just like the slums dominate Detroit. The difference is that Chicago has a few North Side yuppiehoods for the post-collegiate crowd, and a much more prosperous downtown.

Those few yuppie North Side neighborhoods cover about one third of the city and hold about as many people as the whole city of Detroit.

[Chicago60614]

Originally Posted by Osito57

Umm, Chicago has 2.8 million residents and Detroit has 800,000 residents.

Chicago is 40% black and Detroit is 80% black; therefore Chicago has FAR more African American residents.

In fact, Chicago has far more African American residents than Detroit even has people.


It's called elementary school-level math. 40% black + 35% Latino = 75% black and Latino

Maybe you should learn it one of these days.

Listen dude, I know a couple dozen black people in Chicago, and I'm pretty sure their skin color doesn't instantly throw them ghetto. I might have a nice job, but I know many black people that are making about $100K more than me a year.

As far as 70% of Chicago being a Detroit style ghetto......have you ever visited the city?????

hahaha....

and for whatever, Chicago is around 35% black, 31% white, 28% hispanic and 6% asian.

[Osito57]

Originally Posted by sukwoo

Those few yuppie North Side neighborhoods cover about one third of the city and hold about as many people as the whole city of Detroit.

No, they don't. Maybe 150,000 people live in the yuppie hoods.

Most of the North Side is immigrant (places like Albany Park) or ghetto-lite (Uptown, Rogers Park).

[krock1dk]

Chicago, hands down! It is everything Detroit wishes it was. Chicago is the nation's 3rd largest city (2.8million in a metro area of 10-million), an international city, international cuisine, awsome architecture, a beautiful lakefront, and a lot of good museums, the Magnificant Mile. Although much of the city (especially on the south side) suffers from blight like Detroit, it will always be international city and more "superior."

[oakparkdude]

Originally Posted by Osito57

No, they don't. Maybe 150,000 people live in the yuppie hoods.

Most of the North Side is immigrant (places like Albany Park) or ghetto-lite (Uptown, Rogers Park).

Really? The CORE yuppieville nabes of the Near North Side, Lincoln Park, Near North Side, North Center, and Lincoln Square alone have over 300k based on 2000 Census figures, probably more today.

This excludes the gentrified parts of West Town, Logan Square, Edgewater, Uptown, Rogers Park, West Ridge, North Park, Albany Park, Irving Park, Norwood Park, Jefferson Park, and Forest Glen.

[lakal]

Just an area is predominantly or has sizable numbers of blacks or latinos, it's automatically ghetto? lmao...

[Osito57]

Originally Posted by sukwoo

Really? The CORE yuppieville nabes of the Near North Side, Lincoln Park, Near North Side, North Center, and Lincoln Square alone have over 300k based on 2000 Census figures, probably more today.

Not everyone in these areas are yuppies.

You are including ghettos on the Near South Side, housing projects like Cabrini Green, and non-gentrified middle-class areas like North Center.

So if there really are 300k in these core neighborhoods, I think 150k yuppie/professional types is a fair guess.

Originally Posted by sukwoo

This excludes the gentrified parts of West Town, Logan Square, Edgewater, Uptown, Rogers Park, West Ridge, North Park, Albany Park, Irving Park, Norwood Park, Jefferson Park, and Forest Glen.

LOL, none of these areas are gentrified.

A handful of art school hipsters do not make an entire neighborhood gentrified.

Some are immigrant neighborhoods (Logan Square, Albany Park), some are ghetto lite (Uptown, Rogers Park) and some are semi-suburban (Jeff Park, Forest Glen).

[oakparkdude]

Originally Posted by Osito57

Not everyone in these areas are yuppies.

You are including ghettos on the Near South Side, housing projects like Cabrini Green, and non-gentrified middle-class areas like North Center.

So if there really are 300k in these core neighborhoods, I think 150k yuppie/professional types is a fair guess.


LOL, none of these areas are gentrified.

A handful of art school hipsters do not make an entire neighborhood gentrified.

Some are immigrant neighborhoods (Logan Square, Albany Park), some are ghetto lite (Uptown, Rogers Park) and some are semi-suburban (Jeff Park, Forest Glen).

Okay whatever dude, you're right. All of those neighborhoods are ****holes. You win. Chicago sucks except for one square block in Lincoln Park.

Look at this tenement in Old Irving Park: http://www.chicagomag.com/Radar/Deal...-Park-Chicago/. How can people live in such 3rd world conditions?

Here's another hell-hole of a neighborhood: http://www.chicagomag.com/Radar/Deal...enter-Chicago/

Here's a non-yuppie dwelling in Logan Square (Bucktown): http://www.chicagomag.com/Radar/Deal...dale-Greenway/

[EastSideMKE]

Originally Posted by Osito57

Not everyone in these areas are yuppies.

You are including ghettos on the Near South Side, housing projects like Cabrini Green, and non-gentrified middle-class areas like North Center.

So if there really are 300k in these core neighborhoods, I think 150k yuppie/professional types is a fair guess.


LOL, none of these areas are gentrified.

A handful of art school hipsters do not make an entire neighborhood gentrified.

Some are immigrant neighborhoods (Logan Square, Albany Park), some are ghetto lite (Uptown, Rogers Park) and some are semi-suburban (Jeff Park, Forest Glen).

You just lost all credibility by bringing up Cabrini Green. This isn't 1996. You do realize those projects no longer exist, right?

LOL @ saying Logan Square isn't gentrified. Wicker Park has grown so much that new development is beginning to spill over into surrounding neighborhoods like Logan Square and Bucktown.