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View Poll Results: Philly vs Bos
Philadelphia 221 50.92%
Boston 213 49.08%
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Old 06-21-2009, 08:15 AM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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Boston and Philly shouldnt be competing with one another....we should be trying to pincer New York!
Philadelphia (and Pennsylvania as a whole) does not seem to hate or look down on the New York area the way Eastern Massachusetts and New Hampshire does.
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Old 06-21-2009, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Villanova Pa.
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Boston has the healthier neighborhoods and better overall city. Philadlephia the better downtown. Metro region is a draw for me. But most importantly Philadelphia has the better baseball team. World Champions.

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Old 06-21-2009, 01:47 PM
 
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For public transportation, I do think the edge should be given to Boston. For both subway and light rail, Boston has more ridership and Pilly is the larger city. So Boston wins hands down.

Subway: Boston 4th, Pilly 6th.
Light rail: Boston 1st, Pilly 4th

List of United States rapid transit systems by ridership - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

List of United States light rail systems by ridership - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I guess it depends on the criteria used to decide which public transit system is better. Boston's has cheaper fares which is a plus. Boston's rail lines have higher ridership overall.

Philly's Heavy rail system (including PATCO) covers a slightly larger area than Bostons. SEPTA's light rail covers a much larger area than Boston's light rail. This doesn't even include NJ transit's light rail river line which serves the Philadelphia area. Both cities (SEPTA and MBTA) regional rail covers about the same route miles, though when including NJ transit's regional line which serves Philly, this gives Philly a larger regional rail coverage area.

So basically, Boston's rail lines are cheaper, cleaner, and utilized more than Philly's. Philly's rail lines cover more miles. Philly has several light rail routes that operate 24 hours a day and one heavy rail line that runs 24/7. Several Septa regional rail lines in Philly operate till after 2AM also. Philly's SEPTA bus ridership is also much higher (not including the many NJ Transit bus lines that serve Philly and suburbs). Numerous bus lines run all night.

Based on the more extensive rail and bus coverage in the Philadelphia area, and the later operating hours of rail and buses, I personally give Philly a slight edge. However, Boston's ferry service kills Philadelphias, so this may even them out as far as Public Transportation goes. Props to the people of the Boston area for utilizing public transportation to the extent that they do.
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Old 06-21-2009, 02:12 PM
 
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Default Good points, but

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I guess it depends on the criteria used to decide which public transit system is better. Boston's has cheaper fares which is a plus. Boston's rail lines have higher ridership overall.

Philly's Heavy rail system (including PATCO) covers a slightly larger area than Bostons. SEPTA's light rail covers a much larger area than Boston's light rail. This doesn't even include NJ transit's light rail river line which serves the Philadelphia area. Both cities (SEPTA and MBTA) regional rail covers about the same route miles, though when including NJ transit's regional line which serves Philly, this gives Philly a larger regional rail coverage area.

So basically, Boston's rail lines are cheaper, cleaner, and utilized more than Philly's. Philly's rail lines cover more miles. Philly has several light rail routes that operate 24 hours a day and one heavy rail line that runs 24/7. Several Septa regional rail lines in Philly operate till after 2AM also. Philly's SEPTA bus ridership is also much higher (not including the many NJ Transit bus lines that serve Philly and suburbs). Numerous bus lines run all night.

Based on the more extensive rail and bus coverage in the Philadelphia area, and the later operating hours of rail and buses, I personally give Philly a slight edge. However, Boston's ferry service kills Philadelphias, so this may even them out as far as Public Transportation goes. Props to the people of the Boston area for utilizing public transportation to the extent that they do.
...you may not realize just how far the MBTA extends; from downtown Boston, it reaches as far west as Worcester (central MA), as far south as Providence, RI, and as far north as Lowell/Haverhill/Gloucester, all near the NH state line. All this may explain why many forego the expense of a car and just walk/taxi or ride public transit here.
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Old 06-21-2009, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia,New Jersey, NYC!
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i changed my mind again. i choose boston

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Old 06-23-2009, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Philly
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Philadelphia's rail system extends to Newark, DE. Also, to the point about colleges, there's Bryn Mawr College (an Ivy), St. Joe's University, Widener, Villanova, Ursinus, Rowan, Arcadia, LaSalle. Just thought I'd add those, for what their worth.
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Old 06-23-2009, 10:16 AM
 
Location: New England & The Maritimes
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Philadelphia's rail system extends to Newark, DE. Also, to the point about colleges, there's Bryn Mawr College (an Ivy), St. Joe's University, Widener, Villanova, Ursinus, Rowan, Arcadia, LaSalle. Just thought I'd add those, for what their worth.
All great schools that deserve to be mentioned. Philadelphia certainly has some respectable universities. Bryn Mawr, however, is not 'any ivy'. I think many people misunderstand what constitutes an ivy league school. There are only 8.
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Old 06-23-2009, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Denver
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I'd think it'd be pretty safe to say the mass transit between Boston and Philly is basically a draw. Philadelphia is a great (amazing even) college town. I just wouldn't say it's as good as Boston, which could make the argument that it's the best college city in the world.

Here's a map of the colleges in Boston, Cambridge and pieces of other interior cities:
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Old 06-23-2009, 10:28 AM
 
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Philadelphia's rail system extends to Newark, DE. Also, to the point about colleges, there's Bryn Mawr College (an Ivy), St. Joe's University, Widener, Villanova, Ursinus, Rowan, Arcadia, LaSalle. Just thought I'd add those, for what their worth.
Yeah, I forgot that it goes all the way south to Newark. Also, though it's not SEPTA that runs this line, Philly has a "regional" line run by NJ transit that goes as far east as Atlantic City.
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Old 06-23-2009, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Boston
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Philadelphia's rail system extends to Newark, DE. Also, to the point about colleges, there's Bryn Mawr College (an Ivy), St. Joe's University, Widener, Villanova, Ursinus, Rowan, Arcadia, LaSalle. Just thought I'd add those, for what their worth.
Bryn Mawr is definately not an Ivy. its known as part of the Seven Sisters. do your homework, its not rocket science to name all the ivy's.
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