Skyline competition: Atlanta vs Philadelphia (school, living in, moving to)

[fashionguy]

Just remember that the people on City-Data only represent a small group of people. The majority preference on this forum is very clear without doing any poll. However, this is not in accordance with in real life how people migrates, and there are various polls online that differ. While the situation for Atlanta is not clear. Miami and Houston clearly have bigger skylines than Pilly.

Originally Posted by AC/PHILLY/NJ/NYC

You have not presented any facts, just rambling nonsense. Who cares about fortune 500 companies, it must not be enough because Philly has 1,447,395 million people while Atlanta has 537,958. So, Philly is almost three times the size of Atlanta. The 2007 CSA reports that the Philly metro has 6,385,461 while Atlanta has 5,626,400. Atlanta counts towns into their MSA and CSA that are 45 minutes away from Atlanta. I can’t decide where to live? I live in New Jersey, which brings me access to Atlantic City, Philly, NJ (beaches), New York City and The Hamptons. Forty five minutes outside of Atlanta in all directions is nothing, but a small town filled with hillbillies. Also, thanks for the link, which proved that Philly was ahead of Atlanta. You need to accept the fact that Atlanta has lost this thread and will never be on the level of Philly. Atlanta needs to go play with Dallas, Houston, Miami and Seattle because Atlanta is on the level with those cities. You have not only lost the skyline thread, but you have also lost the….what city is better to live in thread. http://www.city-data.com/forum/city-...ladelphia.html

[afonega1]

Originally Posted by rainrock

Construction in Philly the last couple years. Not polished. New. There is more going on in Center City than just powerwashing and polishing.Its estimated that $20 B dollars of construction/ redevelopment is going on in Center City/University City over the past couple years. Heres a splash of what is happening.

Childrens Hospital Philadelphia expansion- $2 B dollars




Convention Center Expansion- 1 B dollars




Comcast Center - 500 M dollars



Cira Centre



Murano



Symphony House(Pink Building)



10 Rittenhouse



1706 Rittenhouse(silver building forefront)



Residence Ritz Carlton





Waterfront Square


Schuylkill Banks River Trail



naval square one of Toll Brothers few recent success stories.



U Penn Expansion



Drexel dormitory



$500 M Art Museum renovation

2 new casinos if the city didnt stonewall would have been $2 B worth of investment, as is there will be 2 scaled down casinos.

The City just swiped one of the wealthiest art galleries in the world from the Philly suburbs(Barnes Foundation) That is being built as we speak. $2 B collection.

Drexel, Penn, Temple, Thomas jefferson Universities are all on major expansion projects.

I'm not saying there isnt alot happening in Atlanta but what I am saying is that you dont have a firm grasp on what is occurring in Center Ciy Philly.To use the word polishing is misguided.

Most of Philly's building are much older than Atlanta.It just makes sense.Atlanta hasexperienced more growth in a short amount of time in the last 30-40 years.Is it not logical that if you are comparing the citiy's skylines that the buldings would reflect that in the desigs of its buildings?I never said Philly was not growing.It is a comparison.If I said Philly has better cultural institution than Atlanta,That would not mean Atlanta has none.all that you showed is nothing in COMPARISON to the growth in Atlanta over 30 years.

[afonega1]

Originally Posted by AC/PHILLY/NJ/NYC

You have not presented any facts, just rambling nonsense. Who cares about fortune 500 companies, it must not be enough because Philly has 1,447,395 million people while Atlanta has 537,958. So, Philly is almost three times the size of Atlanta. The 2007 CSA reports that the Philly metro has 6,385,461 while Atlanta has 5,626,400. Atlanta counts towns into their MSA and CSA that are 45 minutes away from Atlanta. I can’t decide where to live? I live in New Jersey, which brings me access to Atlantic City, Philly, NJ (beaches), New York City and The Hamptons. Forty five minutes outside of Atlanta in all directions is nothing, but a small town filled with hillbillies. Also, thanks for the link, which proved that Philly was ahead of Atlanta. You need to accept the fact that Atlanta has lost this thread and will never be on the level of Philly. Atlanta needs to go play with Dallas, Houston, Miami and Seattle because Atlanta is on the level with those cities. You have not only lost the skyline thread, but you have also lost the….what city is better to live in thread. http://www.city-data.com/forum/city-...ladelphia.html

ALL that and you still can't focus on the topic.lol

[afonega1]

Originally Posted by fashionguy

Just remember that the people on City-Data only represent a small group of people. The majority preference on this forum is very clear without doing any poll. However, this is not in accordance with in real life how people migrates, and there are various polls online that differ. While the situation for Atlanta is not clear. Miami and Houston clearly have bigger skylines than Pilly.

You cannot be rational with irrational people.

[fashionguy]

Agree. Those pictures are very ordinary and one can easily find similar ones for Atlanta. Now skyline wise, the only edge Pilly has over Atlanta is that it has probably more 3--4 story buildings to fill it up. And because the skyline of Philly is lower than Atlanta (no comparison for buildings over 200m), they are more visible from faraway and appears to feel nicer. In terms of the number and height of tall buildings though, Atlanta wins and will continue to win more. However, it will certainly take more time to eliminate people's stereotypes.

List of tallest buildings in Atlanta - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

List of tallest buildings in Philadelphia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Originally Posted by afonega1

Most of Philly's building are much older than Atlanta.It just makes sense.Atlanta hasexperienced more growth in a short amount of time in the last 30-40 years.Is it not logical that if you are comparing the citiy's skylines that the buldings would reflect that in the desigs of its buildings?I never said Philly was not growing.It is a comparison.If I said Philly has better cultural institution than Atlanta,That would not mean Atlanta has none.all that you showed is nothing in COMPARISON to the growth in Atlanta over 30 years.

[ladarron]

Architecturally Atlanta is the best but when it comes to density I got to give it to Philly

[atlantaATL]

Originally Posted by AC/PHILLY/NJ/NYC

You have not presented any facts, just rambling nonsense. Who cares about fortune 500 companies, it must not be enough because Philly has 1,447,395 million people while Atlanta has 537,958. So, Philly is almost three times the size of Atlanta. The 2007 CSA reports that the Philly metro has 6,385,461 while Atlanta has 5,626,400. Atlanta counts towns into their MSA and CSA that are 45 minutes away from Atlanta. I can’t decide where to live? I live in New Jersey, which brings me access to Atlantic City, Philly, NJ (beaches), New York City and The Hamptons. Forty five minutes outside of Atlanta in all directions is nothing, but a small town filled with hillbillies. Also, thanks for the link, which proved that Philly was ahead of Atlanta. You need to accept the fact that Atlanta has lost this thread and will never be on the level of Philly. Atlanta needs to go play with Dallas, Houston, Miami and Seattle because Atlanta is on the level with those cities. You have not only lost the skyline thread, but you have also lost the….what city is better to live in thread. http://www.city-data.com/forum/city-...ladelphia.html

Philly is not all that my friend it funny how people i know from those areas are moving here like migrating birds. Dying to get here to own a house and some land because they cant afford the high overpriced run down homes and apts they offer there. Atlanta is on the same level as philly and can compete against anything, Jobs and economy are a major factory my friend. And these polls represent a tiny bit of the USA population so no one lost any battles my friend, you cant say all americans because these polls arent represented by all americans.

[afonega1]

Originally Posted by rainrock

Construction in Philly the last couple years. Not polished. New. There is more going on in Center City than just powerwashing and polishing.Its estimated that $20 B dollars of construction/ redevelopment is going on in Center City/University City over the past couple years. Heres a splash of what is happening.

Childrens Hospital Philadelphia expansion- $2 B dollars




Convention Center Expansion- 1 B dollars




Comcast Center - 500 M dollars



Cira Centre



Murano



Symphony House(Pink Building)



10 Rittenhouse



1706 Rittenhouse(silver building forefront)



Residence Ritz Carlton





Waterfront Square


Schuylkill Banks River Trail



naval square one of Toll Brothers few recent success stories.



U Penn Expansion



Drexel dormitory



$500 M Art Museum renovation

2 new casinos if the city didnt stonewall would have been $2 B worth of investment, as is there will be 2 scaled down casinos.

The City just swiped one of the wealthiest art galleries in the world from the Philly suburbs(Barnes Foundation) That is being built as we speak. $2 B collection.

Drexel, Penn, Temple, Thomas jefferson Universities are all on major expansion projects.

I'm not saying there isnt alot happening in Atlanta but what I am saying is that you dont have a firm grasp on what is occurring in Center Ciy Philly.To use the word polishing is misguided.

Since you wanna show me something I have already seen,and am not that impressed with.(Although i am happy with it because it can be so much better than it is.
O.k. FOR YOUR PLEASURE I PRESENT TO YOU A-T-L-A-N-T-A. !!TADA TADA!!.(Im sure you haters are vomiting,thats okay)
http://www.atlantarealestateforum.co...th-midtown.jpg


http://www.ianmarshall.com/files/the...20Buckhead.jpg
http://realtorsara.files.wordpress.c...dmont_park.jpg
http://nothingtosayhere.typepad.com/...ic_station.jpg
http://www.1010midtowncondosupdate.c...th-midtown.jpg
Midtown Atlanta before 12th and Midtown being built
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3240/...73f7aeb6_o.jpg
http://www.skyscraperpicture.com/atlanta13.jpg
These are just some signature buildings.The rest if anyone needs to know ,just come on down and you will see for yourself.The construction is still booming even today in this economy.(well not booming,but still going)

[rainrock]

Originally Posted by atlantaATL

Philly is not all that my friend it funny how people i know from those areas are moving here like migrating birds. Dying to get here to own a house and some land because they cant afford the high overpriced run down homes and apts they offer there. Atlanta is on the same level as philly and can compete against anything, Jobs and economy are a major factory my friend. And these polls represent a tiny bit of the USA population so no one lost any battles my friend, you cant say all americans because these polls arent represented by all americans.

Nobody from Philadelphia is flocking to Atlanta.

Please educate yourself with this great website instead of spreading false propoganda. This is the second attempt at lending a helping hand.

Moving from county to county



546 people from Philadelphia County moved to Fulton County between 2000-2005
538 people from Fulton County moved to Philadelphia County between 2000-2005.

Thats a net inmigration of 8 people. I wouldnt exactly call that flocking.

[rainrock]

Originally Posted by afonega1

I never said Philly was not growing.It is a comparison.If I said Philly has better cultural institution than Atlanta,That would not mean Atlanta has none.all that you showed is nothing in COMPARISON to the growth in Atlanta over 30 years.

You have to be more clear with your commentary. Backtrack to your posts and what you said was Center City Philadelphia growth was stagnant other than some polishing. Which is nonsense unless you consider $20 B dollars worth of new infrastructure in a 5 Sq. mile area"polishing".

I didnt post photos to impress,I could care less, I posted them to educate you that there is more than just polishing going on in center City Philadelphia. I'm not so sure there is/has been more $$$$ being invested in downtown Atlanta than Center City Philadelphia over the past 5 years.