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Old 06-07-2009, 08:28 PM
 
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Old 06-07-2009, 10:04 PM
 
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Boston, its in the USA and its a excellent city with culture, nightlife, and outstanding educational institutions.
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Old 06-07-2009, 11:00 PM
 
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Toronto is a few times Boston's size and beats it in essentially every category except education. So Toronto. Although Boston is one of the better cities in North America.
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Old 06-07-2009, 11:09 PM
 
Location: New England & The Maritimes
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Toronto is a few times Boston's size
not really. Toronto proper is a few times Boston's size in population but that's because it is also a few times Boston's size in land area.

The GTA is not much more populated than Greater Boston. And as we all know, metro pops is all that matters.
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Old 06-07-2009, 11:39 PM
 
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not really. Toronto proper is a few times Boston's size in population but that's because it is also a few times Boston's size in land area.

The GTA is not much more populated than Greater Boston. And as we all know, metro pops is all that matters.
Boston:

89.63 sq mi
Pop. 608,352
Density: 12,561
Metro:4.5m
CSA: 7.5m

Toronto:

243.2 sq mi
Pop. 2.5m
Density: 10, 287
Metro: 5.5m
CSA: 8.1m

Toronto's city proper is way larger and even though it takes up more land it's pop. density isn't sacrificed that much.

The GTA is actually larger by 1m.

Toronto's CSA is larger by 600,000.
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Old 06-08-2009, 12:58 AM
 
Location: New England & The Maritimes
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The GTA is actually larger by 1m.

Toronto's CSA is larger by 600,000.
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Toronto is a few times Boston's size
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Toronto is bigger. The MSA and CSA (which is all that matters) are bigger. a few times bigger? No.
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Old 06-08-2009, 01:52 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA & Istanbul, Turkey
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I currently reside in Boston (1.5 yrs) and lived in Toronto for 16 years off and on.

- Economy: Both cities are dominant economic centers. Each excels in different categories, Toronto stands out in Finance with one of the most stable Banking sectors currently in the world and is also the Media capital of Canada; Boston excels in Biotech, Healthcare and Technology. According to hard data though Boston has a higher GDP (290b-Toronto: $209) and a lower unemployment rate (Boston 7.1%-Toronto: 9.5%)

Advantage: Boston

- Architecture: Toronto has some impressive modern structures and arguably has the 3rd most impressive skyline in North America. Boston on the other hand is better preserved than almost every North American city and has the largest and best preserved historic housing stock in NA. If you appreciate historic architecture then you will love Boston, for those who like modern Toronto is more your speed.

Advantage: Boston

- Nature/Topography: Toronto has been called a city within a park by many. 17% of the city is covered with trees and there are many parks within the Metro Toronto area. You have the Toronto Islands and the Beaches for the Lakefront experience as well. Currently 29% of Boston is covered in Trees. It is one of the 5 greenest cities in North America and has some of the most incredible city parks in the nation such as the Emerald necklace which is a string of 9 urban parks designed by Frederick Law Olmstead. In addition you have the Charles River and the Atlantic Ocean either within or on the shoreline of the city.

Advantage: Boston

- Transportation: Toronto has the 3rd largest Public Transportation system in North America and the largest in Canada. It is clean, safe and efficient and runs until 2am. Toronto also has bus services and commuter GO Train options that stretch into the far suburbs. Boston has the 2nd oldest subway system in the world (after London) It is the 4th busiest public transportation system in the country. There is also a bus system and commuter rail that stretches down to Rhode Island. Boston's system is not as efficient as Toronto's and closes an hour earlier (12:50am) It is substantially more affordable though (Monthly pass Boston: $59; Toronto: $109)

Advantage: Toronto

- Diversity: Toronto is one of the most diverse cities in the world. 46.9% off the population is classified as visible minority and 45.7% is foreign born. 42% of Boston's population is classified as visible minority and 29% of the population is foreign born. Keep in mind though that college students attending from out of state are not counted in the census and the student population is Boston is large and extremely diverse.

Advantage: Toronto

- Safety: Both cities are extremely safe for their size. It is difficult to compare crime statistics between US and Canadian cites. From what i have read though it appears that Toronto has a lower murder rate than Boston. Property crime is higher as well in Boston and Toronto has a higher rate of sex crimes.

Advantage: Toronto

- Culture: Both cities are extremely cultured. Great museums, performing arts, music and art. Toronto is the 3rd largest Center in the world for English speaking theatre. Boston has what is considered either the best or second best Symphony Orchestra in the world and they play in what is hailed as the most acoustically complete Symphony Hall in the world (BSO at Jordan and Boston Symphony Hall) Boston also boasts the 3rd largest professional artist community in North America. The MFA in Boston and the ROM in Toronto are both amongst the top 5 largest museums in the North America.

Advantage: Slight edge to Boston

- Food: Both cities are very diverse and have excellent culinary scenes. Toronto strengths are (Chinese, Indian, Vietnamese, Greek and Portuguese) Boston is (Seafood, Nepali, Cambodian, Italian, Thai and Latin American) Boston has a more refined fine dining scene though.

Advantage: Ethnic: Tie (depending on what you are looking for) Fine Dining: Boston

- Education: Toronto has the University of Toronto and York University. Boston has Harvard, MIT, Tufts, BU and Boston College. Being a graduate of UofT myself I would like to say that it is an excellent school, but everyone knows that Boston is the premier city for Education in the entire world.

Advantage: Boston

- Sports: Toronto teams (Maple Leafs, Blue Jays, Raptors, Toronto FC, Argos) Boston teams (Red Sox, Patriots, Celtics, Bruins, Revolution) It is pretty obvious which city has a better sporting history and is currently the best sports city in America.

Advantage: Boston

- Healthcare: OHIP in the province of Ontario insures every citizens and grants them universal access to healthcare. Toronto has excellent hospitals, one of which is ranked on the Webometrics World Hospital rankings (ranking the top 100 hospitals in the world) That hospital was sick kids. Boston is considered one of the premier healthcare centers in the world. On that same ranking they had 5 hospitals, which was the only city on the list to place more than 4. The state of Massachusetts also was the first state to pass a Universal HealthCare bill in the US with great success. Currently in its 3rd year the Universal Health Care legislation has shown great signs of success. Currently 98% of the population has health insurance coverage.

Advantage: Boston

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Old 06-08-2009, 02:09 PM
 
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Seems a little off topic, but can anyone post pictures about what kind of special historic architecture Boston has? I am going to visit Boston soon and I have always been told its architecture is better preserved, etc. But when I look up online, I didn't find many buildings to visist. In this list, for example, America's Favorite Architecture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

, half of the most favorite architecture are in NYC and half are in DC. Other cities have mostly 4 or 5 structure in the lower part of the list, including Boston, which has the trinity church, public library , etc listed. So I am confused.


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I currently reside in Boston (1.5 yrs) and lived in Toronto for 16 years off and on.

- Economy: Both cities are dominant economic centers. Each excels in different categories, Toronto stands out in Finance with one of the most stable Banking sectors currently in the world and is also the Media capital of Canada; Boston excels in Biotech, Healthcare and Technology. According to hard data though Boston has a higher GDP (290b-Toronto: $209) and a lower unemployment rate (Boston 7.1%-Toronto: 9.5%)

Advantage: Boston

- Architecture: Toronto has some impressive modern structures and arguably has the 3rd most impressive skyline in North America. Boston on the other hand is better preserved than almost every North American city and has the largest and best preserved historic housing stock in NA. If you appreciate historic architecture then you will love Boston, for those who like modern Toronto is more your speed.

Advantage: Boston

- Nature/Topography: Toronto has been called a city within a park by many. 17% of the city is covered with trees and there are many parks within the Metro Toronto area. You have the Toronto Islands and the Beaches for the Lakefront experience as well. Currently 29% of Boston is covered in Trees. It is one of the 5 greenest cities in North America and has some of the most incredible city parks in the nation such as the Emerald necklace which is a string of 9 urban parks designed by Frederick Law Olmstead. In addition you have the Charles River and the Atlantic Ocean either within or on the shoreline of the city.

Advantage: Boston

- Transportation: Toronto has the 3rd largest Public Transportation system in North America and the largest in Canada. It is clean, safe and efficient and runs until 2am. Toronto also has bus services and commuter GO Train options that stretch into the far suburbs. Boston has the 2nd oldest subway system in the world (after London) It is the 4th busiest public transportation system in the country. There is also a bus system and commuter rail that stretches down to Rhode Island. Boston's system is not as efficient as Toronto's and closes an hour earlier (12:50am) It is substantially more affordable though (Monthly pass Boston: $59; Toronto: $109)

Advantage: Toronto

- Diversity: Toronto is one of the most diverse cities in the world. 46.9% off the population is classified as visible minority and 45.7% is foreign born. 42% of Boston's population is classified as visible minority and 29% of the population is foreign born. Keep in mind though that college students attending from out of state are not counted in the census and the student population is Boston is large and extremely diverse.

Advantage: Toronto

- Safety: Both cities are extremely safe for their size. It is difficult to compare crime statistics between US and Canadian cites. From what i have read though it appears that Toronto has a lower murder rate than Boston. Property crime is higher as well in Boston and Toronto has a higher rate of sex crimes.

Advantage: Toronto

- Culture: Both cities are extremely cultured. Great museums, performing arts, music and art. Toronto is the 3rd largest Center in the world for English speaking theatre. Boston has what is considered either the best or second best Symphony Orchestra in the world and they play in what is hailed as the most acoustically complete Symphony Hall in the world (BSO at Jordan and Boston Symphony Hall) Boston also boasts the 3rd largest professional artist community in North America. The MFA in Boston and the ROM in Toronto are both amongst the top 5 largest museums in the North America.

Advantage: Slight edge to Boston

- Food: Both cities are very diverse and have excellent culinary scenes. Toronto strengths are (Chinese, Indian, Vietnamese, Greek and Portuguese) Boston is (Seafood, Nepali, Cambodian, Italian, Thai and Latin American) Boston has a more refined fine dining scene though.

Advantage: Ethnic: Tie (depending on what you are looking for) Fine Dining: Boston

- Education: Toronto has the University of Toronto and York University. Boston has Harvard, MIT, Tufts, BU and Boston College. Being a graduate of UofT myself I would like to say that it is an excellent school, but everyone knows that Boston is the premier city for Education in the entire world.

Advantage: Boston

- Sports: Toronto teams (Maple Leafs, Blue Jays, Raptors, Toronto FC, Argos) Boston teams (Red Sox, Patriots, Celtics, Bruins, Revolution) It is pretty obvious which city has a better sporting history and is currently the best sports city in America.

Advantage: Boston

- Healthcare: OHIP in the province of Ontario insures every citizens and grants them universal access to healthcare. Toronto has excellent hospitals, one of which is ranked on the Webometrics World Hospital rankings (ranking the top 100 hospitals in the world) That hospital was sick kids. Boston is considered one of the premier healthcare centers in the world. On that same ranking they had 5 hospitals, which was the only city on the list to place more than 4. The state of Massachusetts also was the first state to pass a Universal HealthCare bill in the US with great success. Currently in its 3rd year the Universal Health Care legislation has shown great signs of success. Currently 98% of the population has health insurance coverage.

Advantage: Boston

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Old 06-08-2009, 02:56 PM
 
Location: São Paulo
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Seems a little off topic, but can anyone post pictures about what kind of special historic architecture Boston has? I am going to visit Boston soon and I have always been told its architecture is better preserved, etc. But when I look up online, I didn't find many buildings to visist. In this list, for example, America's Favorite Architecture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

, half of the most favorite architecture are in NYC and half are in DC. Other cities have mostly 4 or 5 structure in the lower part of the list, including Boston, which has the trinity church, public library , etc listed. So I am confused.
For particular buildings that are very impressive in Boston, Trinity Church, Old South Church, South Station, the State House, the Old State House, Old North Church, the Old City Hall, and the Boston Public Library come to mind.

However, Boston's architecture can't be judged off its individual buildings. You need to visit the city and walk through the neighborhoods to appreciate its beauty. Walk through the North End. There aren't many individual buildings that you'll find in a "favorite buildings" book, but walking down the street you'll swear you're in Europe. Beautiful old buildings complimented by tiny, winding roads. Beacon Hill is a collection of arguably the finest colonial-era architecture in the country.

The Back Bay is beyond-gorgeous. In my opinion it has some of the most beautiful architecture in the entire country. The row-homes are among the most beautiful in the country. Back Bay easily matches and may out-do New York City and Washington DC for the beauty low-rise architecture. Take a look at my post from this earlier thread.
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Old 06-08-2009, 03:12 PM
 
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Wow your pictures are absolutely beautiful.

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For particular buildings that are very impressive in Boston, Trinity Church, Old South Church, South Station, the State House, the Old State House, Old North Church, the Old City Hall, and the Boston Public Library come to mind.

However, Boston's architecture can't be judged off its individual buildings. You need to visit the city and walk through the neighborhoods to appreciate its beauty. Walk through the North End. There aren't many individual buildings that you'll find in a "favorite buildings" book, but walking down the street you'll swear you're in Europe. Beautiful old buildings complimented by tiny, winding roads. Beacon Hill is a collection of arguably the finest colonial-era architecture in the country.

The Back Bay is beyond-gorgeous. In my opinion it has some of the most beautiful architecture in the entire country. The row-homes are among the most beautiful in the country. Back Bay easily matches and may out-do New York City and Washington DC for the beauty low-rise architecture. Take a look at my post from this earlier thread.
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