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I do not really care where you are located, neither I care about post that as argument simply state: "There is A LOT that Chicago offers that draws people in" withouth giving ANY examples. Try me, tell me what attraction could make a New Yorker come to Chicago other than visiting his parents
You didn't answer my question. What is your fascination with Chicago? If it has such a bad image in America as you state, why do you waste the time with bashing it in every post? Shouldn't you be above it? The more you bash it, the more significant you make the city seem, as you are giving it attention. It is obviously worthy of your time.
You didn't answer my question. What is your fascination with Chicago? If it has such a bad image in America as you state, why do you waste the time with bashing it in every post? Shouldn't you be above it? The more you bash it, the more significant you make the city seem, as you are giving it attention. It is obviously worthy of your time.
If you think about it the reason for it is that Chicago is so isolated from the rest of the big US cities that Chicagoans simply do not know what the rest of country thinks about them. Chicago is the self-proclaimed inventor of anything
Chicago isolated? Looks pretty much in the center of everything to me. If anything California cities are the most isolated with pretty much no big cities to speak of anywhere nearby.
Chicago isolated? Looks pretty much in the center of everything to me. If anything California cities are the most isolated with pretty much no big cities to speak of anywhere nearby.
Oh my goodness enough already with this annoying light pollution photo!!! This is like the 4th time in 2 days you've posted that pic. We get it already!! Like I said in the other thread,
Oh my goodness enough already with this annoying light pollution photo!!! This is like the 4th time in 2 days you've posted that pic. We get it already!! Like I said in the other thread,
This is the second time I've seen you say the same thing so, likewise, I "get it already."
No but seriously sometimes you have to bring up the same thing over and over again for different people. It's what I do every day at work. I like how you try to downplay it as just "light pollution" and not urban development though. Come on jman. You sound like a reasonable poster. I've been to San Francisco multiple times and there are just as many street lights on the roads as anywhere else. But you can't hang street lights where no one lives. Hence the map. But for your pleasure I posted another map, specifically population density, in another thread. For your sake I will not post it here.
The problem with Chicago is its isolated in a way that it doesn't have a true alternative city in the Midwest or a city that can draw just as many people. Lets get real, nobody wants to visit Indianapolis. Chicagoland alternative state is Indiana, which is one of the most boring states in the country. NYC have New Jersey which I'm sure is better than NW Indiana. I live close to the Northwest Indiana border and I rarely go to Indiana. Plus over the state line, you have run down cities like Gary and East Chicago.
I love Chicago, but its in a not so desirable location. Least we have a huge lake that is pretty cool though.
This is the second time I've seen you say the same thing so, likewise, I "get it already."
No but seriously sometimes you have to bring up the same thing over and over again for different people. It's what I do every day at work. I like how you try to downplay it as just "light pollution" and not urban development though. Come on jman. You sound like a reasonable poster. I've been to San Francisco multiple times and there are just as many street lights on the roads as anywhere else. But you can't hang street lights where no one lives. Hence the map. But for your pleasure I posted another map, specifically population density, in another thread. For your sake I will not post it here.
Lol no its all good. And I do sympathize with the need for repetition in order to drive home a point. I often end up having to reiterate and break things down in detail in order to drive home my point, so I understand. Its just that I had seen that pic several times consecutively, and then right after commenting once I'd seen that you'd just posted it again. No big deal tho.
You're right tho, I was trying to downplay it. I didn't mean to in the sense that light pollution was a bad thing or that SF doesn't have it, but I was in that I was trying to diminish the effectiveness of that pic. I fully got your point tho. That map is reflective of the denseness of population and development throughout the country. Don't worry about avoiding posting things for my sake, I'm not out to get you or anything. Actually you seem like a decent, intelligent dude. I was just reacting to the repetition, so sorry if it came off as an attack.
First off- Michael Jordan is from Wilmington, North Carolina, not Chicago. Oprah is from Mississippi. So if we include them for "Chicago" we must include everyone who is even loosely associated with San Francisco as well.
So lets see -
Jack Kerouac
Allen Ginsburg
Ken Kesey
Hunter S. Thompson
The Grateful Dead
Janis Joplin
Ansel Adams
Gary Snyder
Clint Eastwood
OJ Simpson
Carlos Santana
Joe Montana
Joe Dimaggio
Jefferson Airplane
Sly and the Family Stone
Chicago, I associate with a particular style of electric blues, gangsters, and crooked politicians. I haven't seen a very thorough list yet, but I'm skeptical it is as influential as SF.
Yes, Oprah and MJ weren't born in Chicago, but contributed their "pop culture" influence while in Chicago.
Its fine to bring up where they were born; however someone earlier in the thread listed all the people that were from Chicago, and it was shot down. You pro-Sf'er cant have it both ways !!!
Hillary Clinton
Jesse Jackson
Barack Obama
Donald Rumsfeld
Michael Jordan
Mike Ditka
Da Bears
The untouchables
Kanye West
Fall out boy
Smashing pumpkins
bo diddly
disturbed
r kelly
muddy waters
mcdonalds
skyscrapers
jim and john belushi
bill murray
tom berenger
mr T
oprah
harold raimis
bob newhart
bernie mac
charlton heston
hugh hefner
harrison ford
steve carell
john dillinger
chicago pizza
the blues brothers
al capone
..also the dark knight and ferris buhlers day off were filmed there
and to top it off william paley(the founder of CBS) is from chicago
Don't forget that cellular phone was invented in Chicago.
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