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I also think it's important to note that Birmingham has a much more contentious relationship with the state of AL than Charleston, Greenville, or Columbia have with the state of SC, which is honestly pretty tame. By not having one "big city" in the state for rural legislators to hate on, SC overall does a little better in that regard. I also think SC being in a position where it has to play nice with its neighbors due to overlapping metros areas in both NC and GA (Charlotte, Myrtle Beach, Augusta, and essentially Savannah [although not in the same MSA/CSA, Hilton Head/Beaufort is right next door to Savannah and they share an airport and media markets]) ultimately benefits it as well.
Mrytle beach is in south carolina. And savannah airport doesn't effect charleston airport. Charleston airport isnthe biggest in the state. Nothing to do with savannah
Mrytle beach is in south carolina. And savannah airport doesn't effect charleston airport. Charleston airport isnthe biggest in the state. Nothing to do with savannah
I have absolutely no clue what any of that has to do with my post that you responded to. I don't think you understood my point at all.
I also think it's important to note that Birmingham has a much more contentious relationship with the state of AL than Charleston, Greenville, or Columbia have with the state of SC, which is honestly pretty tame. By not having one "big city" in the state for rural legislators to hate on.
While that is true. Atlanta and New Orleans have seem to overcome that to their benefit. The problem is that the vast majority of the Birmingham legislative delegation doesn't stand up fight for the Birmingham area down at the state house.
While that is true. Atlanta and New Orleans have seem to overcome that to their benefit. The problem is that the vast majority of the Birmingham legislative delegation doesn't stand up fight for the Birmingham area down at the state house.
Not sure about NOLA, but Atlanta hasn't really overcome it (and it has historically had to fight both the state and its own suburbs, especially those to the north), although it seems that relations are starting to thaw somewhat as evidenced by noticeable changes in tone when it comes to MARTA. Atlanta just has the advantage of being the biggest and most influential metro by far in Georgia with no other metro coming close.
Originally Posted by Mutiny77;44448295. I also think SC being in a position where it has to play nice with its neighbors due to overlapping metros areas in both NC and GA (Charlotte, Myrtle Beach, Augusta, and essentially Savannah [although not in the same MSA/CSA, Hilton Head/Beaufort is right next door to Savannah and they share an airport and media markets
I never said it was. Allow me to repeat myself because I don't think you understood my point:
"I also think SC being in a position where it has to play nice with its neighbors due to overlapping metros areas in both NC and GA (Charlotte, Myrtle Beach, Augusta, and essentially Savannah [although not in the same MSA/CSA, Hilton Head/Beaufort is right next door to Savannah and they share an airport and media markets) ultimately benefits it as well."
I listed Myrtle Beach as a metro that has overlap with a neighboring state. Its MSA extends into NC (Brunswick County, which was previously part of the Wilmington, NC MSA).
No SC cities were listed in that second list because none are among the nation's 100 largest cities (SC has very restrictive annexation laws), which is the cities that were ranked.
But surely you're not using these lists to say that certain measures of fitness are big growth influencers, are you? Surely they are important (and as we can see, there's not much difference at all between the AL and SC metros here) but metrics such as job growth, unemployment, income levels, educational attainment levels, etc. matter more.
To a certain extent, yeah; I mean look around, the US has become so conscious regarding Health Issues, Fitness, GMO's, The Environment etc. etc. The culture nowadays isn't what it used to be say 10-20 years ago, people are going to the gym more, riding bikes, walking their dogs, or just overall becoming more active. That alone can influence growth, not saying it's #1 on a list pertaining to other growth issues, but things like that help jump start it, it builds momentum.
To a certain extent, yeah; I mean look around, the US has become so conscious regarding Health Issues, Fitness, GMO's, The Environment etc. etc. The culture nowadays isn't what it used to be say 10-20 years ago, people are going to the gym more, riding bikes, walking their dogs, or just overall becoming more active. That alone can influence growth, not saying it's #1 on a list pertaining to other growth issues, but things like that help jump start it, it builds momentum.
And yet SC has five metro areas that are growing faster than Birmingham so obviously that has very, very little to do with growth patterns...not to mention the fact that metros like NYC, Houston, DFW, Nashville, Charlotte, San Antonio, Jacksonville, etc. all ranked worse than Birmingham on that first ranking. You're really reaching here.
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