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Rust Belt 107 43.50%
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Old 07-05-2009, 05:16 PM
 
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What about college sports? College sports are a lot more passionate and exciting than pro sports. Tuscaloosa, Baton Rouge, Austin, Gainsville and many more football stadiums get louder on fall saturdays than any NFL stadium in the rust belt.
Very true...add to that list Chapel Hill, Tallahassee, Norman, Lexington, Durham, Athens, Auburn, Columbia, Raleigh, Atlanta, Louisville, Knoxville, and so on.
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Old 07-05-2009, 05:18 PM
 
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ohio state please
My thoughts exactly...the Rustbelt has a small handfull of college sports atmospheres that can compete with those in the Sunbelt.
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Old 07-05-2009, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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ohio state please
Ohio State is one school. Notre Dame has nothing to shout about these days and Michigan is terribly quiet for its size. I will give you Penn State though if you include them as the rust belt. But that's still only two.
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Old 07-05-2009, 05:19 PM
 
Location: West Hollywood
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1. The Sunbelt has 4 seasons, friendly people, public transportation, and rich cultural history.

2. NYC, Philadelphia, Boston, D.C. are NOT part of the Rustbelt.

3. Much of the Sunbelt also relied on manufacturing. There is a long list of industrial cities in the South.

4. The entire U.S. has plenty of subdivisions and retirement centers...and every region has it's weather issues, but only the coastal areas of the South has hurricanes - the majority of the Sunbelt doesn't...and half of the region has cold winters as well.

5. Learn some geography and history before making such silly posts.
It looks like YOU need to read more into what the rust belt represents.

The rust belt DOES in fact include the outer boroughs of NYC and Northern New Jersey, most of Philly, most of Chicago, and the areas outlying DC!

All those areas (basically the north as a whole) are the centers of the manufacturing industry of the American economy! Yes, manufacturing exists in the "Sun Belt" (which should actually be called the "Dry Belt" because it's all running dry of water), but the Rust Belt is where the center of it all is, and where the hub of the steel economy lays.

Manufacturing in the south is important, but if you honestly think the Sun Belt has more history and importance than the rust belt, you have another thing coming.

Subdivisions exist nationwide yes, but only in the Sun Belt are they inescapable. It's rare to find a subdivision in any rust belt city. Subdivisions exist all over Houston, Phoenix, and Charlotte.

And the cities in the sun belt (except maybe Miami and New Orleans) just don't pack the punch and fun of the cities in the Rust Belt. Sorry, Houston, Phoenix, and Charlotte may be big, but they just don't cut it for me. Been there done that, there plenty of big suburbs around New York or Chicago that feel just like them. I'll go to LA if I want to be in a suburban city, because at least LA has culture and is fun.
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Old 07-05-2009, 05:24 PM
 
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It looks like YOU need to read more into what the rust belt represents.

The rust belt DOES in fact include the outer boroughs of NYC and Northern New Jersey, most of Philly, most of Chicago, and the areas outlying DC!

All those areas (basically the north as a whole) are the centers of the manufacturing industry of the American economy! Yes, manufacturing exists in the "Sun Belt" (which should actually be called the "Dry Belt" because it's all running dry of water), but the Rust Belt is where the center of it all is, and where the hub of the steel economy lays.

Manufacturing in the south is important, but if you honestly think the Sun Belt has more history and importance than the rust belt, you have another thing coming.

Subdivisions exist nationwide yes, but only in the Sun Belt are they inescapable. It's rare to find a subdivision in any rust belt city. Subdivisions exist all over Houston, Phoenix, and Charlotte.

And the cities in the sun belt (except maybe Miami and New Orleans) just don't pack the punch and fun of the cities in the Rust Belt. Sorry, Houston, Phoenix, and Charlotte may be big, but they just don't cut it for me. Been there done that, there plenty of big suburbs around New York or Chicago that feel just like them. I'll go to LA if I want to be in a suburban city, because at least LA has culture and is fun.
I'm not responding to all of that nonsense...examine the posts - you're the one who obviously feels it necessary to bad-mouth the opponent...not me. I simply responded to your fictional post. Then you come back with more negativity. Everyone can see where the problems originate in cases such as this. We can all read.

I skimmed your post above...more fiction, more nonsense. It's not even worth my time to read.
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Old 07-05-2009, 05:27 PM
 
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What about college sports? College sports are a lot more passionate and exciting than pro sports. Tuscaloosa, Baton Rouge, Austin, Gainsville and many more football stadiums get louder on fall saturdays than any NFL stadium in the rust belt.
If that is the case, then Basketball in the Rust Belt is no joke. This is what we do here in Syracuse for Basketball:








Then you have some other Big East schools like Marquette, Notre Dame, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati that have packed crowds. Then you have Big Ten schools like Michigan State, Michigan, Purdue and Illinois that also have packed crowds. That doesn't even get into some good mid-major schools either.

As for Football, Syracuse, while only holding 50,000 max, has a crazy atmosphere when the team was or is playing at a high level. Penn State has the 3rd biggest stadium in the world! Pittsburgh gets good crowds. Same for nearby West Virginia U. Ohio State, Michigan and Michigan State also get good crowds.
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Old 07-05-2009, 05:29 PM
 
Location: West Hollywood
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I'm not responding to all of that nonsense...examine the posts - you're the one who obviously feels it necessary to bad-mouth the opponent...not me. I simply responded to your fictional post. Then you come back with more negativity. Everyone can see where the problems originate in cases such as this. We can all read.

I skimmed your post above...more fiction, more nonsense. It's not even worth my time to read.
Nobody's forcing you to be in the thread. But if you'd like to debate this topic respectfully, I'll be here snooping around.

No negativity here
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Old 07-05-2009, 05:32 PM
 
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When did Syracuse become part of the Rustbelt???

Rustbelt


The Rustbelt offers little competition in the way of college basketball...for example, just check out the results of the ACC-Big Ten Challenge. The ACC is 10-0, and only one Big Ten team, Michigan State, has managed a winning record in the challenge.
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Old 07-05-2009, 05:33 PM
 
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Nobody's forcing you to be in the thread. But if you'd like to debate this topic respectfully, I'll be here snooping around.

No negativity here
OH PLEASE! Can you read your own words? It's nothing but negativity. I don't debate with people who make fictional statements rather than facts. Make some truthful remarks and we can talk about - until then, no thank you.
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Old 07-05-2009, 05:34 PM
 
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When did Syracuse become part of the Rustbelt???

Rustbelt


The Rustbelt offers little competition in the way of college basketball...for example, just check out the results of the ACC-Big Ten Challenge. The ACC is 10-0, and only one Big Ten team, Michigan State, has managed a winning record in the challenge.
That map knows better. If Syracuse isn't in the Rustbelt, then something is wrong. It is definitely a city that is in transistion from being a manufacturing center to one that is based more on education, health care and some high tech industries.
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