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07-07-2009, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by AZLiam
Since much of the South is made up of people from the North, what does that say about people from the North?
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What a very astute observation, if not for the fact that the states with the most North-South migration are more advanced than the states with little North-South migration.
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07-07-2009, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoarfrost
What a very astute observation, if not for the fact that the states with the most North-South migration are more advanced than the states with little North-South migration.
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More advanced how? Please give examples and reasons for your beliefs including migration numbers to back up your claims. I am also curious as to what type of migration occurs from "non-advanced" Northern cities to "advanced" Northern cities and which citizens from those so-called "advanced" Northern cities are actually natives and which are moving South to help "advance" the South as you claim.
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07-07-2009, 05:34 PM
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A question for the OP, have you ever been to any of the sun belt states? There is a big difference between California and Florida, or Arizona and Georgia. If I didn't have family in the Northeast I could easily see myself settling down in California. As a matter of fact, regardless I may just end up there, I'm tired of long depressing winters and cabin fever. Overcast skies for much of winter. I'll take SoCal over the rust belt or any other region of the country in a hearbeat. That's coming from a die-hard NY'er who loves the city.
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07-07-2009, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by AZLiam
More advanced how? Please give examples and reasons for your beliefs including migration numbers to back up your claims. I am also curious as to what type of migration occurs from "non-advanced" Northern cities to "advanced" Northern cities and which citizens from those so-called "advanced" Northern cities are actually natives and which are moving South to help "advance" the South as you claim.
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The map is on the last page and covers the Education Index, Gross Enrollment Index, and Adult Literacy - life Expectancy - and GDP.
I never said people moving from the North to the South are advancing the South. What I posted shows that many Southern states do not rank up to states in the rest of the nation. You countered that Southern states have lots of Northern migrants, the implication being that Northerners were either hurting the South's numbers and/or not helping. I pointed out that the states with the largest amount of Northern migration, VA, GA, etc. tend to be more developed than the rest of them.
Nor did I make this a North vs South thing. The West also has many more high ranking states than the South does.
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07-07-2009, 07:16 PM
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A question for the OP, have you ever been to any of the sun belt states? There is a big difference between California and Florida, or Arizona and Georgia. If I didn't have family in the Northeast I could easily see myself settling down in California. As a matter of fact, regardless I may just end up there, I'm tired of long depressing winters and cabin fever. Overcast skies for much of winter. I'll take SoCal over the rust belt or any other region of the country in a hearbeat. That's coming from a die-hard NY'er who loves the city.
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Yes, I have been to many of them, and yes, I have spent much time in them/vacationed there (sort of... in Gatlinburg at least, and NC/SC/GA on the way to Miami by car once. Also travelled through the ATL a handful of times via 75 and seen what's going on there, along with hitting up a few kitschy attractions, such as Rock City and Ruby Falls, that were nearby. Still have spent a LOT of time in the area, though.).
Still, as much as I agree that weather is important, it honestly would never influence where I lived, unless it was some god-awful desert with nothing or rainforest with about 190 poisonous and deadly snakes waiting outside your door or something..... 
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07-08-2009, 05:58 AM
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Eh? Who said anything about the Civil War?
It resembles the less advanced places in my region.
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I'm so glad I'm not as advanced as California. Advancement must bring lots of problems including the inability to balance a budget.
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07-08-2009, 09:54 AM
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Threads like these are so unproductive.
I can't believe people for the North AND the South continue to post on these insipid threads.
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07-08-2009, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Daytonnatian
Personally, I see almost nothing good about this region. Why do you all that defend it do so?
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The Sunbelt is warm and has a low cost of living. A lot of companies are relocating to the Sunbelt. People move for warmth, affordability, jobs, or any combination of those reasons.
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07-08-2009, 12:06 PM
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Some people prefer year round warm weather and others don't. We simply need to acknowledge that. There have been other posters, though, who seem to think that EVERYBODY would live in the Sunbelt states if they could. That is simply not true. I think is more the case than the opposite view. I can understand some people not liking the cold climate states, but I don't understand why others cannot acknowledge that there are people who like 4 seasons, cold, and SNOW.
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07-08-2009, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Daytonnatian
Yes, I have been to many of them, and yes, I have spent much time in them/vacationed there (sort of... in Gatlinburg at least, and NC/SC/GA on the way to Miami by car once. Also travelled through the ATL a handful of times via 75 and seen what's going on there, along with hitting up a few kitschy attractions, such as Rock City and Ruby Falls, that were nearby. Still have spent a LOT of time in the area, though.).
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Are you serious? This is what you based your opinion of an entire region of the country on? Wow. A couple of hokey tourist traps and some quick drive throughs hardly give you any idea of what it would be like to live in a city. Anyways, I guess everyone is allowed to have an opinion, no matter how uminformed it is.
I was born and raised, living 24 years just 20 minutes outside of your beloved Dayton and I did choose the sun belt. It was one of the best decisions of my life.
What's so great about it? The people for one thing. The locals in most cases are very welcoming and the transplants are estatic, believing as though they have escaped the depressing north. The weather is better (if you prefer warmer climates as most people do), the cities are growing and building new, not crumbling and losing people like many of their northern counter-parts and their economies are expanding with new opportunities. I could go on and on....
It's no different than when the north experienced such rapid growth when industry became the focal point of our country. Those days are gone. It's simple...people will go where there is an opportunity live a stable, satifying life.
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