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Call me a homer but lets go with Philly on this one.
Philly is much more managable and sane,incredible suburbs, beautiful countryside 15 minutes from downtown. NYC is just too over the top.
I had relatives from the west coast who had never been east before. They visited last summer. All they talked about leading up to their trip was NY NY NY ,Manhattan, Skyline, Sex in the city atmosphere. Blah blah blah they just would not shut up about NY and Seinfeld.
Took them to Center City Philly and they were awestruck, it was exactly what they envisoned Manhattan to be albeit on a smaller scale.Very healthy skyline,thousands of pedestrians walking the streets,200 al fresco dining options, 200 restaurants/bars/delis, 700 total retail establishments,Museums galleries abound in a 2 sq mi area.They had th etime of thier lives. They then went to NYC, got stuck in nightmarish traffic, had to spend $300 a night for a hotel in the middle of Jersey City. They did the Manhattan thing the next day (with small children I must add) and came back absolutely traumatized by the insanity of it all. They had planned on spending 3 days in NYC but were back after 1 day.
ExactlyThe census data is showing increases throughout the Northeast and midwest.
Big US Cities See Population Resurgence - Money News Story - KMGH Denver (http://www.thedenverchannel.com/money/19911323/detail.html - broken link)
Call me a homer but lets go with Philly on this one.
Philly is much more managable and sane,incredible suburbs, beautiful countryside 15 minutes from downtown. NYC is just too over the top.
I had relatives from the west coast who had never been east before. They visited last summer. All they talked about leading up to their trip was NY NY NY ,Manhattan, Skyline, Sex in the city atmosphere. Blah blah blah they just would not shut up about NY and Seinfeld.
Took them to Center City Philly and they were awestruck, it was exactly what they envisoned Manhattan to be albeit on a smaller scale. They then went to NYC and had to spend $300 a night for a hotel in the middle of Jersey City. They did the Manhattan thing the next day (with small children I must add) and came back absolutely traumatized by the insanity of it all. They had planned on spending 3 days in NYC but were back after 1 day.
Congratulations to the city of Philly which for the first time in years didn't lose population (no evidence of gaining either, the article you provided just said stopped losing).
That NYC is gaining the most population is understandable. It has the largest population base and its reputation is becoming better. Also people move less in hard economic conditions. So base is important. (not for Philly, of course). You know which city is second? Phoenix !!! (Sorry for people who think Pheonix has stopped growing and is full of foreclosures. People are still in love with the not so great skylined and sprawled and the what you call it, "fake" Phoenix). 3. Houston. 4. LA 5.San Antonio 6. Fort Worth 7. New Orleans 8. Chicago 9. Austin 10. San Diego. Sorry, 4 cities from Texas and no Philly. 8 Sun Belt cities, plus NYC and Chicago. Sorry Sun Belt bashers. Sorry only 2 real cities made the list. Sorry that the other top 10 cities are all fake, as you called.
If you look at the percentage, the No. 1 is New Orleans (of course). In the top ten, 4 cities are from Texas, one from Arizona, 2 from North Carolina and 2 from California. Sorry no real city from Northeast or Midwest made the list.
Read the original data from census bureau. The comments added by journalists are usually biased.
US Census Press Releases (http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/population/013960.html - broken link)
Sample paragraphs:
New York led the nation’s cities in numerical increase during the 2007-2008 period, adding more than 53,000 residents. New Orleans had the seventh largest numerical growth. Four Texas cities were among the 10 largest numerical gainers: Houston (third), San Antonio (fifth), Fort Worth (sixth) and Austin (ninth). Two California cities — Los Angeles (fourth) and San Diego (10th) — made the top 10, as did second-ranked Phoenix. Rounding out the list was eighth-ranked Chicago, which experienced its second straight year of population increase after five consecutive years of decline.
Round Rock, Texas, a city north of Austin, was the second fastest-growing city (8.16 percent) in the nation from 2007 to 2008.
All in all, four of the 10 fastest-growing large cities were in Texas, including McKinney (north of Dallas, ranking fifth), Killeen (north of Austin, ninth) and Fort Worth (10th). North Carolina had a pair of cities in the top 10 fastest growing — Cary (west of Raleigh, third) and Raleigh (eighth) — as did California (Roseville, north of Sacramento, which ranked sixth and Irvine, in Orange County, seventh). Fourth-place Gilbert, Ariz., completed the list. (See Table 1.)
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ExactlyThe census data is showing increases throughout the Northeast and midwest.
Big US Cities See Population Resurgence - Money News Story - KMGH Denver (http://www.thedenverchannel.com/money/19911323/detail.html - broken link)
Last edited by fashionguy; 07-13-2009 at 02:36 AM..
Call me a homer but lets go with Philly on this one.
Philly is much more managable and sane,incredible suburbs, beautiful countryside 15 minutes from downtown. NYC is just too over the top.
I had relatives from the west coast who had never been east before. They visited last summer. All they talked about leading up to their trip was NY NY NY ,Manhattan, Skyline, Sex in the city atmosphere. Blah blah blah they just would not shut up about NY and Seinfeld.
Took them to Center City Philly and they were awestruck, it was exactly what they envisoned Manhattan to be albeit on a smaller scale.Very healthy skyline,thousands of pedestrians walking the streets,200 al fresco dining options, 200 restaurants/bars/delis, 700 total retail establishments,Museums galleries abound in a 2 sq mi area.They had th etime of thier lives. They then went to NYC, got stuck in nightmarish traffic, had to spend $300 a night for a hotel in the middle of Jersey City. They did the Manhattan thing the next day (with small children I must add) and came back absolutely traumatized by the insanity of it all. They had planned on spending 3 days in NYC but were back after 1 day.
You make a point to tell this story every time theres a nyc vs philly discussion. Lol at grown people being traumatized by new york. How the heck did they become traumatized. If anything its gotta be incredible rush to experience nyc for the first time, something i will never get to experience. Wonder what its like?
I pick Philly.NYC is a city you visit ,unless you are independantly wealthy.I agree with Daily Journalist on this one,Philly is more manageable with a similar culture.If i were wealthy though,I would pick NYC
When you live in a "real" city, you then understand the difference. That doesn't mean that will be your preference, but there is a difference. Both NYC and Philly are "real" cities.
But why would anyone exchange the "real" thing for a "phony"? What person would exchange real money for monopoly money? If the cities you reference aren't "real," then that makes no sense.
There is some ridiculous posts on this thread. It seems that most northeners seem to claim that southeners can't get over the civil war. And yet I see posts like this.
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there is really no rivalry between the major Northeast cities. There is a mutual respect and every city in the Northeast, whether it be Philadelphia, Boston, or New York City is great in its own way and will trump anything in the south.
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Chicago is the big brother to other midwestern cities like St. Louis and Milwaukee. It is not part of the Northeast, its a midwestern city.
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Not saying that Philly is in the level of NYC, because no city can top NYC. Just saying that Philly is a great city. What I am saying is that in the North you can find more cities that are better than in the South.
And the worst of corse being North>South saying the "but the two cities will unite as one to be against the hillbillies in the south" and there were other northeners unpatriotic enough to agree with him . It seems to me that the North can't get over the civil war, or even wants to start another one.
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