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So is Albany the #1 city in NY State? Maybe we can do battle of the regional cities and NYC can be the #1 Downstate NY city!
I'd argue that within NY, NYC has such a large % of the population and economic strength that it dictates the policy of the entire state. It is the de facto capital of NY, if not it in name. In my opinion, SF's % of population and economic strength relative to the country is not to the degree where it dictates policy within DC. SF doesn't even have that kind of influence over CA due to competition with LA.
yet the bay area is a far bigger player in the global economy than the dc area is.
DC isn't importing and exporting like SF, but SF's trade policies are established in DC.
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actually california's largest companies, richest individuals and most reknowned institutions of higher learning are in the sf area, not la.
You're missing my point here. The point was that within NY, NYC is the de facto capital due to population and economic influence. You don't really believe SF holds the same kind of sway over California, do you? Of course SF is a major contributor to California, but cities like LA, and to a lesser extent SD and Sacto diminish it's influence over California in a way that no other city in NY dimishes NYC's influence over NY.
DC isn't importing and exporting like SF, but SF's trade policies are established in DC.
By people from all over the country who have very little to no allegiance to DC. DCs representation in federal policy is practically nonexistent.
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The point was that within NY, NYC is the de facto capital due to population and economic influence. You don't really believe SF holds the same kind of sway over California, do you? Of course SF is a major contributor to California, but cities like LA, and to a lesser extent SD and Sacto diminish it's influence over California in a way that no other city in NY dimishes NYC's influence over NY.
LA is the King of SoCal. No question.
However California has another half and LA is not King there. Trust me.
by people from all over the country who have very little to no allegiance to dc. Dcs representation in federal policy is practically nonexistent.
The policymakers may not be from DC, but DC is where they all gather to create policy regardless.
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la is the king of socal. No question.
However california has another half and la is not king there. Trust me.
I know LA perhaps is not the most influential city in NorCal, but my point is that SF isn't the de facto capital of California like NYC is the de facto capital of NY.
The policymakers may not be from DC, but DC is where they all gather to create policy regardless.
True.
It looks like we disagree on DCs overall importance in the economy. Economically, I would place DC and its Metro well behind SF, Houston and Boston.
Politically, it would be 1st obviously.
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I know LA perhaps is not the most influential city in NorCal, but my point is that SF isn't the de facto capital of California like NYC is the de facto capital of NY.
How can you discount DC, when the policies that come from DC shape every city in the country. You cannot disconnect DC political influence. That's like taking Hollywood from LA or finance from NYC. Some of you people are hilarious. Decisions from a DC bail out have helped what cities in 09? If North Korea sends a nuke this way, how important will the decisions coming out of SF impact the country???? ZERO
I'd argue that within NY, NYC has such a large % of the population and economic strength that it dictates the policy of the entire state. It is the de facto capital of NY, if not it in name. In my opinion, SF's % of population and economic strength relative to the country is not to the degree where it dictates policy within DC. SF doesn't even have that kind of influence over CA due to competition with LA.
I thought it was a good question. Made me have to think for a little while how to articulate an equally good response.
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So is Albany the #1 city in NY State? Maybe we can do battle of the regional cities and NYC can be the #1 Downstate NY city! 
