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View Poll Results: Chicago vs. Philadelphia
Chicago 567 65.17%
Philadelphia 303 34.83%
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Old 08-29-2014, 04:38 PM
 
Location: East Central Pennsylvania/ Chicago for 6yrs.
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according to a recent article in Crain’s Chicago:
The Chicago Loop long has been one of the world’s greatest job centers. For much of its history, though, downtown emptied out after office hours. And as the city aged and its population declined, the suburbs rose to become the preferred home to generations of young families.
In recent years, those trends have reversed. After decades of watching the suburbs boom, >>>>CHICAGO NOW IS OUTPERFORMING SURROUNDING AREAS<<<<<< by almost any measure—jobs, income, retail sales and residential property values, to name a few—despite the loss of 200,000 people in the 2010 census.
THE CITY OF CHICAGO IS SO HOT<<<that this expanded downtown is adding residents faster than any other urban core in America, according to U.S. Census Bureau data.
“In the year 2020, no matter how many condos are built or sold, Chicago is likely to be a nest of center-city affluence unequaled in size—or even approached—by anyplace in America,” journalist Alan Ehrenhalt writes in “The Great Inversion and the Future of the American City.”
CAN YOU REALLY TOP THIS SHORELINE ??? EXPECIALLY A DOWNTOWN ONE? DOES PHILLY'S


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Old 08-29-2014, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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according to a recent article in Crain’s Chicago:
CAN YOU REALLY TOP THIS SHORELINE ??? EXPECIALLY A DOWNTOWN ONE? DOES PHILLY'S
Chicago is easily the second best Downtown in the country. The highrises lining the parks lining the Lakefront is truly beautiful, and I don't think anyone would argue that Philadelphia tops that.
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Old 08-29-2014, 05:43 PM
 
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Doesn't Philadelphia (and Pennsylvania in general) have a much better landscape than Chicago (and Illinois in general)? The midwest is known for being flat and boring. Not to discount Chicago, I am sure it's a great city in its own right. But it would seem that Philadelphia would have better recreational opportunities.

Chicago might be a slightly cleaner city (or some say it is), but can a major midwest city really beat a major northeast city overall? Seems hard to believe, but maybe it's possible.
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Old 08-29-2014, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Villanova Pa.
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Doesn't Philadelphia (and Pennsylvania in general) have a much better landscape than Chicago (and Illinois in general)?
Yes


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but can a major midwest city really beat a major northeast city overall?
No.




Ocean City down to Cape May would make the Chicago Lake experience summer campish.

By the way , New Yorkers ? Stay up in north jersey and long island please.
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Old 08-29-2014, 08:29 PM
 
Location: New Orleans
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Ocean City down to Cape May would make the Chicago Lake experience summer campish.
woah woah, we're talking about Chicago vs Philly, not Illinois shoreline vs Jersey shoreline.
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Old 08-29-2014, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Chicago might be a slightly cleaner city (or some say it is), but can a major midwest city really beat a major northeast city overall? Seems hard to believe, but maybe it's possible.
Hubris makes people say the most ridiculous things.
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Old 08-29-2014, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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according to a recent article in Crain’s Chicago:
The Chicago Loop long has been one of the world’s greatest job centers. For much of its history, though, downtown emptied out after office hours. And as the city aged and its population declined, the suburbs rose to become the preferred home to generations of young families.
In recent years, those trends have reversed. After decades of watching the suburbs boom, >>>>CHICAGO NOW IS OUTPERFORMING SURROUNDING AREAS<<<<<< by almost any measure—jobs, income, retail sales and residential property values, to name a few—despite the loss of 200,000 people in the 2010 census.
THE CITY OF CHICAGO IS SO HOT<<<that this expanded downtown is adding residents faster than any other urban core in America, according to U.S. Census Bureau data.
“In the year 2020, no matter how many condos are built or sold, Chicago is likely to be a nest of center-city affluence unequaled in size—or even approached—by anyplace in America,” journalist Alan Ehrenhalt writes in “The Great Inversion and the Future of the American City.”
CAN YOU REALLY TOP THIS SHORELINE ??? EXPECIALLY A DOWNTOWN ONE? DOES PHILLY'S



Beautiful!!
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Old 08-29-2014, 09:24 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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No, as someone who's been to both cities and explored them a lot and like both cities - Chicago's dense urban areas are quite a bit larger than Philly's footprint. True streetwall uninterrupted. It's not in every direction for Chicago, but at least spreading to the north and west from the lakefront it goes up round 10 miles to the city limits. Throw in areas to the west and south and you have a larger footprint for sure. It's not row houses, but it's certainly dense walled commercal streets and two-three flats along with large apartment and condo complexes.

Someone said Chicago is like Minneapolis once you step away from the loop. Maybe once you get through 5-6 miles of neighorhoods and start hitting areas with the bungalows. There's a lot of land and a lot of people in Chicago before you ever hit bungalows.

Bungalows and detached housing is ony 25% of Chicago's housing stock. Might seem like more when you're flying in since it's in the area of the city near the airports - but there's a lot more out there than the northwest and southwest sides.

Even miles to the northwest of downtown it's still quite dense and tight with houses and commercial areas.

https://maps.google.com/?ll=41.95860...08256&t=h&z=18
I saw more condos and bungalows in Chicago than rowhouses when I was there.

That last streetview you displayed doesn't look as urban as this site in Philadelphia almost 14 miles outside the central city core.


http://goo.gl/maps/eQ4ZE

As far as the lake vs the ocean, the lake is beautiful and amazing with beaches right in the downtown. I was there in summer once and thoroughly enjoyed the beach scene. However, growing up with salt water beaches, I found the water to be gross, and kind of musty smelling. Not my cup of tea. And felt much colder than our ocean here.

I took this vid a couple of weeks ago with 77F ocean water and great waves. I didn't see nary a wave on that lake when I was there.


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Old 08-29-2014, 09:36 PM
 
Location: New Orleans
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I saw more condos and bungalows in Chicago than rowhouses when I was there.

That last streetview you displayed doesn't look as urban as this site in Philadelphia almost 14 miles outside the central city core.


http://goo.gl/maps/eQ4ZE

As far as the lake vs the ocean, the lake is beautiful and amazing with beaches right in the downtown. I was there in summer once and thoroughly enjoyed the beach scene. However, growing up with salt water beaches, I found the water to be gross, and kind of musty smelling. Not my cup of tea. And felt much colder than our ocean here.

I took this vid a couple of weeks ago with 77F ocean water and great waves. I didn't see nary a wave on that lake when I was there.


that street view looks pretty suburban looking to me. the Chicago street view example is much more urban

and yes in ocean vs lake ocean wins, but one problem, Philly is on a river, and the ocean isn't walking distance away from the city
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Old 08-29-2014, 09:40 PM
 
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Ocean City down to Cape May would make the Chicago Lake experience summer campish.

By the way , New Yorkers ? Stay up in north jersey and long island please.

Sometimes I wonder if saltwater has some detrimental affect on human intelligence. This is a national park with access to several South Shore train stations from Millenium Station in downtown Chicago. I've been up and down the New Jersey Shore and it's nice, but nowhere near as beautiful as this National Park.

http://www.motorhome.com/wp-content/...dianaDunes.jpg

http://www.nationalparkstraveler.com...llon%20NPS.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...iana_dunes.jpg

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