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View Poll Results: Which is more urban?
Boston 72 63.72%
DC 41 36.28%
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Old 10-19-2011, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Actually, it proves the point that looking at population and dividing it by land area to get density doesn't tell the whole story. You guys keep talking about people and density yet D.C. has over 600,000 people in far less land than Boston based on the amount of government, military, and park land that lacks residential development.
And what about all of the colleges in Boston? There are more colleges in Boston proper than there are in the Baltimore-Washington CSA. And one of the reasons DC's population density is so low is because Southeast DC has areas that could pass for Sumter, South Carolina. A lot of Washington, DC is really country. That's why there are so many BBQ Ribs shacks and fried fish joints like Horace & Dickie's. You guys sure do love your catfish!
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Old 10-19-2011, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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And MD, does this qualify as urban or a Cnayon?

boston ma - Google Maps

Because oddly enough Boston also stuff outside of the DT, even extends beyond its borders so to speak
Facing that way you would think, but when you turn around, that 2 story Midtown Hotel ruins that unfortunately. Redevelop that, then yes. Breaks in the development must be fixed
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Old 10-19-2011, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Facing that way you would think, but when you turn around, that 2 story Midtown Hotel ruins that unfortunately. Redevelop that, then yes. Breaks in the development must be fixed
The liquor stores and rib shacks are also problems that need to be fixed. What's up with that, B? How are you going to have parking lots, rib shacks, and broken down buildings right in the geographic center of your city?
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Old 10-19-2011, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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And what about all of the colleges in Boston? There are more colleges in Boston proper than there are in the Baltimore-Washington CSA. And one of the reasons DC's population density is so low is because Southeast DC has areas that could pass for Sumter, South Carolina. A lot of Washington, DC is really country. That's why there are so many BBQ Ribs shacks and fried fish joints like Horace & Dickie's. You guys sure do love your catfish!
Yes, we are D.C. and we don't really have much in common with any other cities. We love that by the way.

The gentrification wind has now crossed the river into southeast. Much of southeast is being redeveloped.

-Barry Farms
-Anacostia
-Skyland Shopping Center
-St. Elizabeth Campus
-all the metro stops in southeast have mixed use developments coming
-etc.
-etc.
-etc.

Once again, D.C. is booming!
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Old 10-19-2011, 03:48 PM
 
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Facing that way you would think, but when you turn around, that 2 story Midtown Hotel ruins that unfortunately. Redevelop that, then yes. Breaks in the development must be fixed
Hoew bout DTX?
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Old 10-19-2011, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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The liquor stores and rib shacks are also problems that need to be fixed. What's up with that, B? How are you going to have parking lots, rib shacks, and broken down buildings right in the geographic center of your city?
We have fixed it, that whole are is owned by Douglas Development now and they are razing the whole area and building highrises. Try to keep up.....
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Old 10-19-2011, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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The gentrification wind has now crossed the river into southeast. Much of southeast is being redeveloped.
Which means for now, it's still the country.
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Old 10-19-2011, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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We have fixed it, that whole are is owned by Douglas Development now and they are razing the whole area and building highrises. Try to keep up.....
Just face it. DC is inferior to Boston. Living in Georgetown or Foxhall is not nearly as prestigious as living in Beacon Hill. DC has some "okay" schools, but nothing like Harvard or MIT. GWU is a poor man's Ivy. DC has some "okay" architecture, but nothing like the brownstones of Back Bay and the South End. DC tries to replicate Boston's character, but it feels forced and sterile. It's like me saying, "Hey, let's be best friends!" DC has nothing that can ever compare to the North End, Southie, Eastie, Charlestown or the JP. I can understand why this thread has got you so upset. I'd be upset too if my hometown were so clearly inferior to another city not called New York. With a little work (i.e., clearing out the rib shacks, getting old ladies to get rid of their chicken coops in SE), Washington, DC will be on its way!
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Old 10-19-2011, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Actually, it proves the point that looking at population and dividing it by land area to get density doesn't tell the whole story. You guys keep talking about people and density yet D.C. has over 600,000 people in far less land than Boston based on the amount of government, military, and park land that lacks residential development.
If you look at census tracts, Boston's inner neighborhoods are considerably denser than those of DC.
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Old 10-19-2011, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Denver
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DC and Boston are pretty comparable in terms of urbanity, but comparing DC to BK is a joke.

DC pop 601,273 - 68.3 sq miles = 8,803 ppsm
BK pop 2,504,700 - 96.90 sq imles = 25,848 ppsm

Not a good comparison.
Whoops, you made a little mistake here! Brooklyn only has 70.61 square miles of land...so its density is actually 36,356 ppsm!
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