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i don't know about that. it took us less than 30 mins to get to muir woods (mill valley?) and that looked pretty country to me. actually, would you consider sausalito urban? it looked rustic like cape cod.
Yeah that poster forgot to mention that directly north of SF...like directly across the Golden Gate Bridge, is Marin county, much of which is pretty rural. You can be in sparsely populated mountains 10 minutes after leaving SF if you go northwest. Everything else she said is true though, and there's plenty of development north of SF too...it's just in sort of a strip along the highway, surrounded on all sides by rural areas (and of course the bay/SF to the south).
As for the Bay Area's total urban expanse, you can go from Santa Rosa in the North Bay to San Jose in the South Bay, and experience nearly no breaks in the urban fabric for 90 miles (and all those breaks are in the North bay). The widest expanse east to west is around 40-50 miles, with a coupe small breaks here and there, such as the hills in the east bay.
Yeah that poster forgot to mention that directly north of SF...like directly across the Golden Gate Bridge, is Marin county, much of which is pretty rural. You can be in sparsely populated mountains 10 minutes after leaving SF if you go northwest. Everything else she said is true though, and there's plenty of development north of SF too...it's just in sort of a strip along the highway, surrounded on all sides by rural areas (and of course the bay/SF to the south).
As for the Bay Area's total urban expanse, you can go from Santa Rosa in the North Bay to San Jose in the South Bay, and experience nearly no breaks in the urban fabric for 90 miles (and all those breaks are in the North bay). The widest expanse east to west is around 40-50 miles, with a coupe small breaks here and there, such as the hills in the east bay.
San Jose is a major city in it's own right. In fact it has a larger population than SF and has it's own MSA as judged by the census bureau. So really, it should be inconsequential for the purposes of the thread
Intuitively I would assume that the intent of the post was to gauge which city feels and looks more urban and it is apparently a tie.
San Jose is a major city in it's own right. In fact it has a larger population than SF and has it's own MSA as judged by the census bureau. So really, it should be inconsequential for the purposes of the thread
Intuitively I would assume that the intent of the post was to gauge which city feels and looks more urban and it is apparently a tie.
Do you really want to start down this road?
Yes San Jose is it's own city. And yes it is part of the same Metro area as SF. But where did I say it was the same as SF? And the poll being a tie makes sense. The Boston CSA has 8+ million people and the Bay Area CSA has 7+ million people. The Bay Area was actually bigger until providence was added to Boston. Look for Stockton and Salinas (and eventually Sacramento and Modesto) to be added to the SF CSA in the near future, putting it back above Boston.
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Both are very urban, but my definition of urban is population, density, fabric, grit, diversity and scale. Based on that, it's SF, SF, Boston, Boston, SF and Boston. I think it's a good question, but when I think of urban based on how I perceive things to be urban they are both very close.
Both are very urban, but my definition of urban is population, density, fabric, grit, diversity and scale. Based on that, it's SF, SF, Boston, Boston, SF and Boston. I think it's a good question, but when I think of urban based on how I perceive things to be urban they are both very close.
I dont agree with grit. I think, if anything, SF has more gritty sections than Boston.
Fabric, I can see, as Boston has arguably the second strongest urban fabric in the country.
They both are look at the poll i never seen a poll this close!!
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