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Old 08-04-2009, 03:04 PM
 
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To be honest I dont think LA had it as bad as NYC did. I think LA's crime back then was mostly gang related but LA still had a crack problem. Miami used to be the most homicidal place in the country in the early 80s....I would go more into this but this video and movie on youtube will explain everything you need to know about Miami in the early 80s.


YouTube - Cocaine Cowboys Documentary :: Part 1 [HQ]
Oh I already know everything about Miami in that era. My mom lived there during that era and would tell me stories. And I grew up in south Floirda during the early to mid-90's and we would always go to Miami. In the 90's you could see the fallout from that era within the black, and carribean drug gangs that have been killing each other since the late 80's-til now. Miami Gangs such as Zoe Pound and Boobie Boys are the fallout from this era.
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Old 08-04-2009, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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South Bronx neighborhoods in 1990:
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40th- Mott Haven - 72 murders

pop : 77,214 (93 homicides per 100,000) (104 rapes per 100,000) (2,800 robberies per 100,000) (1,508 assaults per 100,000)

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41st- Hunts Point- 44 murders

pop : 39,443 (112 homicides per 100,000) (74 rapes per 100,000) (2,776 robberies per 100,000) (1,391 assaults per 100,000)

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42nd- Morrisania- 54 murders

pop: 57,162 (94 homicides per 100,000) (98 rapes per 100,000) (2,113 robberies per 100,000) (1,506 assaults per 100,000)

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44th- Highbridge- 89 murders

pop: 119,962 (74 homicides per 100,000) (75 rapes per 100,000) (1,823 robberies per 100,000) (1,367 assaults per 100,000)

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46th- Tremont - 82 murders

pop: 118,435 (69 homicides per 100,000)(63 rapes per 100,000) (2,393 robberies per 100,000) (1,047 assaults per 100,000)

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* there was an arson fire in this hood. The number in parenthesis is the stat excluding the arson that killed 90+ people:

48th - East Tremont- 137 murders

pop: 68,061 (201 homicides (63) per 100,000) (51 rapes per 100,000) (1,802 robberies per 100,000) (959 assaults per 100,000)

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In total these central/south Bronx hoods combined for:

478 murders
480,307
100 murder rate (81 murder rate)

And the "true south Bronx" hoods were worse:

pop :173,819 (170 homicides (98) per 100,000)


Worst part of NYC.
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Old 08-04-2009, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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You wont find many 500,000 pop cities with murder rates of 100 and robbery rates of 2,500.
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Old 08-05-2009, 12:41 AM
 
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Yeah, but just like subsections of NYC had extremely high homicide rates, smaller sections of smaller cities have the same problems. I know that the about 75% of Cleveland's homicides are in an area of about 1/5 the cities population..

Regardless, NYC is a perfect example of how cities can change. Cleveland gets so much hate for it's high crime and such, but little do we forget NYC was VERY violent, among the worst and now it's turned around tremendously since the early 90s.

If Cleveland were the size of NYC, it would have more homicides then NYC did in the early 90s. This is going by per capita of course. So would cities like New Orleans, Detroit, Camden, Balitmore, Wash DC, Youngstown, Flint, St Louis, etc.
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Old 08-05-2009, 12:45 AM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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Yeah, but just like subsections of NYC had extremely high homicide rates, smaller sections of smaller cities have the same problems. I know that the about 75% of Cleveland's homicides are in an area of about 1/5 the cities population..

Regardless, NYC is a perfect example of how cities can change. Cleveland gets so much hate for it's high crime and such, but little do we forget NYC was VERY violent, among the worst and now it's turned around tremendously since the early 90s.
Yeah this is so true. I am so surprised of the change. I was in The Bronx in the 90s. And I can tell you it has changed dramatically. I use to hear gunshots everyday. Now when I go to The Bronx. I do not any longer hear gunshots.
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Old 08-05-2009, 02:06 AM
 
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Atlanta used to be very bad in the 90s. It's not anywhere near perfect now, but it was much worse then. It was said that the city "cleaned itself up" for the olympics.

The city is now aiming to be "project free" and tearing all of them down.

In the 90s it had some of the most dangerous public housing units and one of the worst crime rates in the country.


YouTube - East Lake Meadows Zone 6 Little Vietnam
Is it called Little Vietnam because there are a lot of Vietnamese immigrants there or is it because it resembles a Vietnam War Zone?
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Old 08-05-2009, 02:59 AM
 
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^^^Warzone.
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Old 08-05-2009, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
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Is it called Little Vietnam because there are a lot of Vietnamese immigrants there or is it because it resembles a Vietnam War Zone?

Eastlake Meadows was no joke. But IMO I dont think Eastlake at it's worst was ever as bad as Techwood and Perry were. Techwood looked very old and scary and I remember hearing stories about the police being scared to go in there without backup. I actually had the misfortune to experience Perry though, an aunt of mine lived in Carver Hills right behind Perry Homes and I remember one night a pick up truck whizzed thru followed by about 7 APD squad cars and all the while the passenger was throwing out ziploc bags of what I thought at the time was sugar, but later as I got older I realized it was cocaine.
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Old 08-05-2009, 03:31 PM
 
Location: LawnGuyLin
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In retrospective I never realized how bad the 90s were until it was over.
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Old 08-05-2009, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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In retrospective I never realized how bad the 90s were until it was over.
Definitely. I think most cities were worse in the 90s than they are now.
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