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Old 02-21-2011, 02:34 PM
 
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i'm not doubting chicago was bad back then, but there was no american city with a murder rate of 400 per 100,000. and chicago had a lower murder rate than washington, dc and new orleans in the 90s (and still does today) so there are two cities right there that not only rivaled the violence of chicago but surpassed it.
comparing big cities against smaller cities is ridiculous..

case in point: just in 07, east st louis murder rate hit 101 per 100,000..D.C never came close to that even in the 90's, so i guess east saint is the worst city ever now, right?
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Old 02-21-2011, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC NoVA
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comparing big cities against smaller cities is ridiculous..

case in point: just in 07, east st louis murder rate hit 101 per 100,000..D.C never came close to that even in the 90's, so i guess east saint is the worst city ever now, right?
dc wasn't a small city though so your point has no point. it had bad and great sides back then. you don't know what you're talking about. dc did come close to 100 per 100,000 in the 90s and in a city with good sides, so you can bet the bad side's rate was well over east st louis' 101 per 100,000 and even over 200 per 100,000. dc had almost 500 murders in 1991 in a city of half a million+. if the bad side had 200,000 people and since most murders occur on the bad side and there were 500 murders, then that's a rate of 250 per 100,000 on dc's bad side. then you can add the part of pg county that touches dc's bad side where most murders in pgc occur too and that's a wrap.

chicago was bad, but dc was worse and it still is more dangerous. i'd rather walk through south side of chicago than ne dc any time of day, in fact last time we were in ne dc which was a couple years ago we heard gunshots in the distance.
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Old 02-21-2011, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY $$$
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comparing big cities against smaller cities is ridiculous..

case in point: just in 07, east st louis murder rate hit 101 per 100,000..D.C never came close to that even in the 90's, so i guess east saint is the worst city ever now, right?
this is true a city with a few thousands of people shouldnt be compared to a city with millions. agreed.
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Old 02-21-2011, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY $$$
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dc wasn't a small city though so your point has no point. it had bad and great sides back then. you don't know what you're talking about. dc did come close to 100 per 100,000 in the 90s and in a city with good sides, so you can bet the bad side's rate was well over east st louis' 101 per 100,000 and even over 200 per 100,000. dc had almost 500 murders in 1991 in a city of half a million+. if the bad side had 200,000 people and since most murders occur on the bad side and there were 500 murders, then that's a rate of 250 per 100,000 on dc's bad side. then you can add the part of pg county that touches dc's bad side where most murders in pgc occur too and that's a wrap.

chicago was bad, but dc was worse and it still is more dangerous. i'd rather walk through south side of chicago than ne dc any time of day, in fact last time we were in ne dc which was a couple years ago we heard gunshots in the distance.
idk man did dc have housing projects with 28 bodies on a weekend?
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Old 02-21-2011, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC NoVA
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this is true a city with a few thousands of people shouldnt be compared to a city with millions. agreed.
but dc isn't a city with a few thousands. it's a city with half a million+ and it's smaller in area than most cities which is why the east side slums extend into pgc and you see so many murders in pgc. his point is valid when talking about compton or east stl, but not dc.
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Old 02-21-2011, 03:03 PM
 
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dc wasn't a small city though so your point has no point. it had bad and great sides back then. you don't know what you're talking about. dc did come close to 100 per 100,000 in the 90s and in a city with good sides, so you can bet the bad side's rate was well over east st louis' 101 per 100,000 and even over 200 per 100,000. dc had almost 500 murders in 1991 in a city of half a million+. if the bad side had 200,000 people and since most murders occur on the bad side and there were 500 murders, then that's a rate of 250 per 100,000 on dc's bad side. then you can add the part of pg county that touches dc's bad side where most murders in pgc occur too and that's a wrap.

chicago was bad, but dc was worse and it still is more dangerous. i'd rather walk through south side of chicago than ne dc any time of day, in fact last time we were in ne dc which was a couple years ago we heard gunshots in the distance.
really.

btw he was talking about just the englewood area with 400/100,000 murder rate. not the whole city of chicago
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Old 02-21-2011, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC NoVA
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idk man did dc have housing projects with 28 bodies on a weekend?
chicago was also much larger population wise than dc.

dc was the murder capital of the early 90s. look at the stats. those are the hard facts.
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Old 02-21-2011, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY $$$
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but dc isn't a city with a few thousands. it's a city with half a million+ and it's smaller in area than most cities which is why the east side slums extend into pgc and you see so many murders in pgc. his point is valid when talking about compton or east stl, but not dc.
im not talking about dc.
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Old 02-21-2011, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY $$$
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chicago was also much larger population wise than dc.

dc was the murder capital of the early 90s. look at the stats. those are the hard facts.
i know what hard facts but hard facts are also filled with cities that get like 10 murders in a year and labeled murder cap.

i know about dc and its past.

but im speaking about a housing project specifically. Chicago no doubt has worse housing projects then dc.
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Old 02-21-2011, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC NoVA
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i know what hard facts but hard facts are also filled with cities that get like 10 murders in a year and labeled murder cap.

i know about dc and its past.

but im speaking about a housing project specifically. Chicago no doubt has worse housing projects then dc.
no it didn't and it doesn't to this day. dc had half the murders chicago had with a fraction of the population. chicago was not more dangerous and it didn't have more dangerous projects.
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