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Old 06-05-2017, 06:19 AM
 
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[quote=EducatedBrother615;48374305]You have to include Gary, Indiana too. They had the highest homicide rate ever in history for cities above 100,000 people. Gary reached a murder rate of 91 per 100k in 1993. I think the highest DC ever had was around 80 per 100k and I know New Orleans reached up to as much as 85 per 100k.[/QUOUTE


Even though it was because of Katrina and population loss and not in the 90's but I think New Orleans was 95 in 2005 that year.
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Old 06-05-2017, 06:52 AM
 
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You have to include Gary, Indiana too. They had the highest homicide rate ever in history for cities above 100,000 people. Gary reached a murder rate of 91 per 100k in 1993. I think the highest DC ever had was around 80 per 100k and I know New Orleans reached up to as much as 85 per 100k.[/QUOUTE


Even though it was because of Katrina and population loss and not in the 90's but I think New Orleans was 95 in 2005 that year.
New Orleans was already high in the nineties.
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Old 06-05-2017, 05:42 PM
 
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You got that right, and during the 1990's D.C. never experienced a murder rate that was lower than 46 per 100k.
Compton hit 89 homicides in 91 for a rate of 94 per 100k

D.C & Detroit most definitely at the top for cities with 600k

So most dangerous can be broke down in 3 categories,

1 ] Big cities with a million plus pop
2 ] Mid sized cities with 600k pop
3 ] And small cities with at least 100k pop
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Old 06-05-2017, 11:29 PM
 
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Compton hit 89 homicides in 91 for a rate of 94 per 100k

D.C & Detroit most definitely at the top for cities with 600k

So most dangerous can be broke down in 3 categories,

1 ] Big cities with a million plus pop
2 ] Mid sized cities with 600k pop
3 ] And small cities with at least 100k pop
Here's an example why that's not plausible when looking at data covering the five year period from 1993-1997 Houston, a city of 1.7 million saw 330 killings a year, and Dallas, a city of 1 million, saw 284 killlings a year over the period .Meanwhile, New Orleans, a city of only 493 k, saw 360 killings a year over the same period.
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Old 06-06-2017, 06:12 AM
 
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Here's an example why that's not plausible when looking at data covering the five year period from 1993-1997 Houston, a city of 1.7 million saw 330 killings a year, and Dallas, a city of 1 million, saw 284 killlings a year over the period .Meanwhile, New Orleans, a city of only 493 k, saw 360 killings a year over the same period.
I think for comparisons to be realistic you have to size up the worst areas of each city and then compare. For example, an area of 50,000 vs 50,000 give or take a few thousands. An area of 1,000,000 vs 200,000 is not a realistic comparison. Just think about it. If the goal is to determine how rough a city is, then we have to compare the rough parts. Make sense?
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Old 06-06-2017, 08:13 AM
 
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I think for comparisons to be realistic you have to size up the worst areas of each city and then compare. For example, an area of 50,000 vs 50,000 give or take a few thousands. An area of 1,000,000 vs 200,000 is not a realistic comparison. Just think about it. If the goal is to determine how rough a city is, then we have to compare the rough parts. Make sense?
I know in 1993 the 7th district MPD, which is basically ward 8 said it recorded its highest count at 133 homicides. Ward 8 at the time is only about 80,000 people. . Nowadays that’s how much the whole city had for 2016 at 681,000.
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Old 06-07-2017, 07:56 AM
 
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I know in 1993 the 7th district MPD, which is basically ward 8 said it recorded its highest count at 133 homicides. Ward 8 at the time is only about 80,000 people. . Nowadays that’s how much the whole city had for 2016 at 681,000.
That's a lot of murders for such a small area. It really is similar to what was going on in Robert Taylor and Stateway Gardens projects on Chicago's south side in 1991.


Drugs and gangs, that`s what it is, and today those two terms are interchangable.`` Miller said. The South Side Wentworth area leads the city with 126 murders so far in 1991, police said.

The Worst Is Over For Chicago - tribunedigital-chicagotribune


Again in 1991, the Wentworth district recorded the city`s highest rate of homicides. Most of its 70,000 residents live in the Stateway Gardens or Robert Taylor Chicago Housing Authority projects. Poverty and unemployment are major problems in the district.

922 Homicides Made 1991 Year To Forget - Page 2 - tribunedigital-chicagotribune
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Old 07-04-2017, 10:48 AM
 
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In New York City, even the most dangerous neighborhoods were far safer last year than in the bad old days of the early 90's. In 1991, the murder rate was 129.3 per 100,000 in the 41st Precinct in Hunts Point, the Bronx; 108.79 in the 40th Precinct in the South Bronx, and 104.53 in the 25th Precinct in East Harlem. Last year the murder rate was 20.3 in the 41st Precinct; 19.4 in the 40th Precinct, and 14.6 in the 25th Precinct. MICHAEL COOPER
Some early 90's NYC precincts NEIGHBORHOOD REPORT: NEW YORK UP CLOSE; Crime Count: Which Areas Are Safest? - The New York Times
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Old 07-05-2017, 01:41 PM
 
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I think for comparisons to be realistic you have to size up the worst areas of each city and then compare. For example, an area of 50,000 vs 50,000 give or take a few thousands. An area of 1,000,000 vs 200,000 is not a realistic comparison. Just think about it. If the goal is to determine how rough a city is, then we have to compare the rough parts. Make sense?
It does but only for metropolitan cities. Micropolitan cities won't have that define data.
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Old 07-09-2017, 07:35 PM
 
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It does but only for metropolitan cities. Micropolitan cities won't have that define data.
Micropolitan can be included as well. All you have to do is lower the population from 50,000 vs 50,000 to 10,000 vs 10,000 or 20,000 vs 20,000 etc. A lot of big cities break their crime down to the level of borough, neighborhood, ward, police district, police beats, census tract, etc. You can use these breakdowns to compare to smaller cities.
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