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Old 07-31-2017, 09:14 PM
 
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LA, NYC, Chicago had the worst in the 90s. LA and NYC cleaned up their act, but not Chicago. For whatever reason, a lot of the most violent cities are in the mid-west.
Chicago actually has cut its murder rate in half since the 90s. It's just recently sparking back up but still not to the level it was during the early-mid 90s.
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Old 07-31-2017, 09:18 PM
 
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How do these cities in the 90's compare to now in terms of violence?
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Old 08-20-2017, 10:48 AM
 
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In 2016, there were areas in Chicago that were worse than DC(1991) and New Orleans(1994) at their peak in homicide rate per capita. All these neighborhoods border each other so it's just like one big area the size of New Orleans and DC but with more murders.

Austin-97,643/92
Englewood-58,277/85
HP-55,011/28
**South Shore-48,816/21
Auburn Gresham-45,842/31
Roseland-42,505/32
New City-40,997/43
Garfield Park-38,398/58
North Lawndale-35,276/34
*Lower WS-34,410/10
GGC-32,346/34
*McKinley Park-16,336/1
*Washington Park-11,647/11
***Fuller Park-2,543/5

total population +446,295
total murders +437
Murder rate/97.9 per 100k

*total population +508,688
*total murders +459
*Murder rate/90.2 per 100k

**total population +557,504
**total murders +480
**Murder rate/86 pee 100k

***total population +560,047
***total murders +485
***Murder rate/86.5 per 100k
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Old 08-20-2017, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Chicago- Hyde Park
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In 2016, there were areas in Chicago that were worse than DC(1991) and New Orleans(1994) at their peak in homicide rate per capita. All these neighborhoods border each other so it's just like one big area the size of New Orleans and DC but with more murders.

Austin-97,643/92
Englewood-58,277/85
HP-55,011/28
**South Shore-48,816/21
Auburn Gresham-45,842/31
Roseland-42,505/32
New City-40,997/43
Garfield Park-38,398/58
North Lawndale-35,276/34
*Lower WS-34,410/10
GGC-32,346/34
*McKinley Park-16,336/1
*Washington Park-11,647/11
***Fuller Park-2,543/5

total population +446,295
total murders +437
Murder rate/97.9 per 100k

*total population +508,688
*total murders +459
*Murder rate/90.2 per 100k

**total population +557,504
**total murders +480
**Murder rate/86 pee 100k

***total population +560,047
***total murders +485
***Murder rate/86.5 per 100k
By HP I assume you mean Humboldt Park and not Hyde Park, and I don't think it's fair to lump East Garfield in with West Garfield considering they are both different communities.
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Old 08-20-2017, 12:42 PM
 
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By HP I assume you mean Humboldt Park and not Hyde Park, and I don't think it's fair to lump East Garfield in with West Garfield considering they are both different communities.
Yes, HP stands for Humboldt Park. East Garfield park and West Garfield park are in fact different communities; however, the site that I got the information on homicides lumps those two together. They also combine Englewood and West Englewood. But in the end, the result is the same for the point I'm making. That's why I didn't think too much of it. I think individually West Garfield had 30 homicides and East Garfield accounts for the other 28 whereas Englewood had 49 and West Englewood had 36. All of the population is counted for each area individually, they are just combined together. West Garfield (17,742), East Garfield (20,656), Englewood (26,121), West Englewood (32,156).

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Old 08-20-2017, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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Yes, HP stands for Humboldt Park. East Garfield park and West Garfield park are in fact different communities; however, the site that I got the information on homicides lumps those two together. They also combine Englewood and West Englewood. But in the end, the result is the same for the point I'm making. That's why I didn't think too much of it. I think individually West Garfield had 30 homicides and East Garfield accounts for the other 28 whereas Englewood had 49 and West Englewood had 36. All of the population is counted for each area individually, they are just combined together. West Garfield (17,742), East Garfield (20,656), Englewood (26,121), West Englewood (32,156).
Im guessing that site is heyjackasd?
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Old 08-21-2017, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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In 2016, there were areas in Chicago that were worse than DC(1991) and New Orleans(1994) at their peak in homicide rate per capita. All these neighborhoods border each other so it's just like one big area the size of New Orleans and DC but with more murders.

Austin-97,643/92
Englewood-58,277/85
HP-55,011/28
**South Shore-48,816/21
Auburn Gresham-45,842/31
Roseland-42,505/32
New City-40,997/43
Garfield Park-38,398/58
North Lawndale-35,276/34
*Lower WS-34,410/10
GGC-32,346/34
*McKinley Park-16,336/1
*Washington Park-11,647/11
***Fuller Park-2,543/5

total population +446,295
total murders +437
Murder rate/97.9 per 100k

*total population +508,688
*total murders +459
*Murder rate/90.2 per 100k

**total population +557,504
**total murders +480
**Murder rate/86 pee 100k

***total population +560,047
***total murders +485
***Murder rate/86.5 per 100k
I mean, I suppose you could do that but what if DC and NO broke down its city just like you did for Chicago? Even though DC is only 68 sq miles, the crime really happened in an area much smaller than that.
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Old 08-21-2017, 02:53 PM
 
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I mean, I suppose you could do that but what if DC and NO broke down its city just like you did for Chicago? Even though DC is only 68 sq miles, the crime really happened in an area much smaller than that.
Yes, but the question is how far do you want to break it down? The whole purpose of breaking down the population in Chicago is to have a population similar to that of a DC or a New Orleans and see how many murders happen in that area. If we break down DC or New Orleans population to 100,000 or 200,000 for example then we have to do the same to Chicago because the whole point is to have a similar population. At this point I think it's safe to just compare wards, districts, neighborhoods, etc that have a similar population. I think I kind of did that already when I broke it down to Ward 8 (DC) and Wentworth district (Chicago); the two worse sections of each city that have a documented population and murder rate available. The results:

Wentworth district (CHI):
Population: 65,000
Murders: 99
Murder rate: 152 per 100k

Ward 8 (DC):
Population: 86,000
Murders 96
Murder rate: 112 per 100k
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Old 08-21-2017, 02:57 PM
 
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Im guessing that site is heyjackasd?
Yes, but like I said before, them being combined doesn't change anything.
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Old 08-21-2017, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Chicago- Hyde Park
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Yes, but like I said before, them being combined doesn't change anything.
Curious on why they didn't combine North and South Lawndale; demographics maybe?
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