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Old 03-26-2011, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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The worst homicide ever recorded in the world was the south Bronx in 1971, specifically, the Hunts Point neighborhood.

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41st Precinct [Hunts Point (Bronx)] 2.1 Square Miles
Murder: 102
Rape: 74
Robbery: 2,600
Assault: 1,000
Burglary: 6,400
Community Population: 25,000
Murder Rate: 408 murders per 100,000 people a year

Ahh. The south Bronx comes in handy. The Hunts Point neighborhood in 1971 had a murder rate of 408 per 100,000. Think about that for a second, and let it sink in. Ok, now here's something else for you to bite your teeth into:

A study of three streets in its Hunts Point section, published in 1969 by The New York Times, found that residents had only a one in 20 chance of dying of natural causes—most were murdered or died of drug overdoses.
The above is from an old post of mine.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/15336855-post54.html
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Old 03-26-2011, 12:14 PM
 
Location: The Bay
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^That's 4 times as murderous as EPA was in 1992 and with about the same population... wow. That's so bad its embarrassing
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Old 03-26-2011, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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^That's 4 times as murderous as EPA was in 1992 and with about the same population... wow. That's so bad its embarrassing
Yeah it is embarassing. It makes sense though. By that time, Hunts Point was basically abandoned, with building shells, and vacant lots everywhere. What made matters worse was that half of the neighborhood, below the bruckner expressway, was isolated from the rest of the city. At that time, you could murder someone, and the cops wouldn't even do anything for fear of the neighborhood. The hardworking residents were long gone, so the only people that were left in the neighborhood where the pimps, prostitutes, drug dealers, drug addicts, homeless, and the youth gangs. Hunts Point was ravaged by youth gangs, who called the vacant buildings home, and I believe that alot of the violent crime stemmed from them. It was an absolute mess.

Small clip of the area in 1981. It's a movie, but things like this happened all the time.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKFNt...eature=related
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Old 03-26-2011, 03:56 PM
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Location: San Francisco
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^hookers shooting two cops in the face at point blank range in broad daylight happened "all the time" in Hunts Point? Right...I find that hard to believe. I do get your point that it was really BAD there, but can't you find a better video example than a murder scene from a movie? If not, you probably shouldn't post any video, because movie scenes tend to be...you know....not always completely factual.

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Originally Posted by SuperMario
The above is from an old post of mine.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/15336855-post54.html
Also, i think you should post links to your data, that are not links to OTHER POSTS OF YOUR OWN. Seriously. I'm sorry, but "SuperMario" is not to my knowledge a good source for crime stats. Where did the numbers come from? The graphic you posted has crime data for example, and seems to back up the numbers you posted...but there is no population listed for Hunts Point there...for all we know, you just made that population figure up. Also, where is that graphic from to begin with? The NY times i'm assuming?

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Old 03-26-2011, 06:46 PM
 
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The worst homicide ever recorded in the world was the south Bronx in 1971, specifically, the Hunts Point neighborhood.

lol if you actually believe that, that's even worse then what these Chicagos posters are posting in here.

All the the research data I've read doesn't even approach the number you're calming as being the worst rate in America let alone the World.

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Old 03-26-2011, 07:15 PM
 
Location: SAN DIEGO
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Yeah i read that article before.
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Old 03-26-2011, 07:21 PM
 
Location: SAN DIEGO
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The worst homicide ever recorded in the world was the south Bronx in 1971, specifically, the Hunts Point neighborhood.

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The above is from an old post of mine.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/15336855-post54.html
In the world? seriously thats very hard to believe. Source? What was the population of South Bronx in that year?
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Old 04-01-2011, 12:23 AM
 
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In reality it would probably be St. Louis for major cities.



St. Louis


1990 - 3,449.1
1991 - 3,520.2
1992 - 3,290.6
1993 - 3,874.9
1994 - 3,750.7
1995 - 3,352.5
1996 - 2,727.8
1997 - 2,542.5
1998 - 2,570.9
1999 - 2,233.0




compared to



Chicago

1990 - 2,842.2
1991 - 3,092.5
1992 - 2,840.4
1993 - 2,717.4
1994 - 2,684.5
1995 - 2,549.8
1996 - 2,350.9
1997 - 2,262.1
1998 - 2,178.5
1999 - 1,732.6
Atlanta was highest of major cities

1990---4,085.4
1991---4,041.1
1992---3,859.1
1993---4,041.2
1994---3,571.0
1995---3,646.5
1996---3,316.0
1997---3,048.5
1998---3,047.3
1999---2,729.5

Annual highest and 2nd highest per capita murder rates of major cities in the 90's

1990-D.C.-77.8------N.O.--61.2
1991-D.C.-80.6------N.O.--68.9
1992-D.C.-75.2------STL-- 57.4
1993-N.O.-80.3------D.C.--78.5
1994-N.O.-85.8------D.C.--70.0
1995-N.O.-74.5------D.C.--65.0
1996-D.C.-73.1------N.O.--71.9
1997-D.C.-56.9------N.O.--54.7
1998-D.C.-49.7------N.O.--48.8
1999-D.C.-46.4------DET-- 42.6

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Old 04-01-2011, 01:41 PM
 
Location: the future
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So Aceter with all this data who would you say wins the argument in this thread...Atlanta, Chicago,DC, St. Louis. or New Orleans
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Old 04-01-2011, 01:45 PM
 
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D.C. went hard as f*** in the 90's lol
D.C. all day!!!!!!!
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