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View Poll Results: Which skyline do you like better: Toronto VS Philadelphia
Toronto 56 66.67%
Philadelphia 28 33.33%
Voters: 84. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-31-2014, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, WA
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Downtown Toronto has around 5.7 million square feet of office space under construction right now in multiple large towers. That's more than any other CBD in North America.
Canadians use apartment units in their office data since their telecommuting is higher share. DT Philly has more office space u/c.

 
Old 05-31-2014, 05:37 PM
 
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Canadians use apartment units in their office data since their telecommuting is higher share. DT Philly has more office space u/c.
LOL. Huh?
 
Old 05-31-2014, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Canadians use apartment units in their office data since their telecommuting is higher share. DT Philly has more office space u/c.
LOL care to share a reputable source.. I'd be curious which city's CBD has more office space existing and U/C.. I don't think in a Philly vs Toronto comparison of CBD office space the numbers will be kind to Philly at all... Anyone with a pair of eyes would see that. The 5 big Bank HQ's in T.O alone probably encompass more office space than the entire Philly CBD.

Let me help you with a source - sadly Philly doesn't register well at all against Toronto or even against American peers - either that or Avisonyoung completely ignored Philly which doesn't make sense other than the fact that not a lot of office dev was going on in 2013! Houston and D.C are going through huge booms but the dev is in suburban areas whereas by the looks Toronto and NYC are the powerhouses in the U.S and Canada for Office Space Construction in the DT areas - not a big surprise!

http://www.avisonyoung.com/fileDownl...12_13Final.pdf

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Old 05-31-2014, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Cambridge, MA/London, UK
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LOL. Obviously serpent is trolling you guys, he made this account to make crazy statements. You're fault for falling for it.
 
Old 05-31-2014, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Cambridge, MA/London, UK
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LOL care to share a reputable source.. I'd be curious which city's CBD has more office space existing and U/C.. I don't think in a Philly vs Toronto comparison of CBD office space the numbers will be kind to Philly at all... Anyone with a pair of eyes would see that. The 5 big Bank HQ's in T.O alone probably encompass more office space than the entire Philly CBD.

Let me help you with a source - sadly Philly doesn't register well at all against Toronto or even against American peers - either that or Avisonyoung completely ignored Philly which doesn't make sense other than the fact that not a lot of office dev was going on in 2013! Houston and D.C are going through huge booms but the dev is in suburban areas whereas by the looks Toronto and NYC are the powerhouses in the U.S and Canada for Office Space Construction in the DT areas - not a big surprise!

http://www.avisonyoung.com/fileDownl...12_13Final.pdf
Great link Fusion, thoroughly enjoyed reading through it.
 
Old 05-31-2014, 07:49 PM
 
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LOL. Obviously serpent is trolling you guys, he made this account to make crazy statements. You're fault for falling for it.
Yea it's pretty obvious. The amount of posts he has, the date he joined and his ridiculous posts all add up. lol.
 
Old 05-31-2014, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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You are without a doubt, the world's biggest idiot. As of Q3 2013, downtown Philly had no office space under construction. Downtown Toronto had 5.7 million square feet. More than any American CBD, including downtown and midtown Manhattan. These screencaps are from the Q3 2013 Colliers North American Office Outlook:






Philadelphia only has 43 million square feet of office space IN TOTAL. In all likelihood, Philly has never had 5.7 million plus square feet of office space under construction at one time. Toronto has more than 5.7 million square feet of downtown office space u/c, more than even downtown Manhattan.

I'm thinking that you are incapable of telling the truth. I haven't seen you tell the truth once yet in any of your posts in any thread.

Canadian cities are booming right now. Even Calgary has almost as much construction going on as Downtown Manhattan and more than Midtown Manhattan. Vacancy rates are low but this pace of construction is obviously not sustainable long term.
 
Old 05-31-2014, 11:00 PM
 
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I don't think people outside the city really understand the scale of development that has been and continues to go on in Toronto. They just have this frozen perception of a skyline in their mind from 10 years ago.
Indeed. The skyline is undergoing noticeable changes on a monthly basis these days. Mongo at Urban Toronto compiled this handy list of the top twenty tallest buildings currently under construction in Toronto. This list alone would make up an entire skyline of a major city, and in Toronto it's just a drop in the bucket.

May 31 2014

1 896 feet 273m 78 floors Aura Topped Out
2 844 feet 257m 75 floors One Bloor East Rising
3 768 feet 234m 67 floors Ice East Rising
4 764 feet 233m 66 floors Harbour Plaza, east tower Rising
T5 735 feet 224m 62 floors Harbour Plaza, west tower Rising
T5 735 feet 224m 68 floors Ten York Rising
7 673 feet 205m 58 floors L Tower Topped Out
8 669 feet 204m 58 floors 88 Scott Rising
9 663 feet 202m 57 floors Ice West Topped Out
10 643 feet 196m 45 floors Bay-Adelaide East Rising
11 617 feet 188.2m 40 floors Ernst & Young Tower Sinking
12 613 feet 187m 57 floors CASA II Rising
13 604 feet 184m 55 floors U Condos, east tower Rising
14 587 feet 179m 54 floors INDX Condominiums Rising
15 569 feet 174m 35 floors Sun Life Financial Tower Rising
16 551 feet 168m 45 floors Hullmark Centre, north tower Rising
17 550 feet 167.5m 49 floors Lago at the Waterfront Rising
18 544 feet 166m 50 floors Karma Rising
19 528 feet 161m 48 floors FIVE Rising
20 525 feet 161.1m 49 floors X2 Rising
 
Old 06-01-2014, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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Great link Fusion, thoroughly enjoyed reading through it.
Yeah it was actually very well done. Boston looks to be doing quite well! Glad you enjoyed it!
 
Old 06-01-2014, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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Indeed. The skyline is undergoing noticeable changes on a monthly basis these days. Mongo at Urban Toronto compiled this handy list of the top twenty tallest buildings currently under construction in Toronto. This list alone would make up an entire skyline of a major city, and in Toronto it's just a drop in the bucket.

May 31 2014

1 896 feet 273m 78 floors Aura Topped Out
2 844 feet 257m 75 floors One Bloor East Rising
3 768 feet 234m 67 floors Ice East Rising
4 764 feet 233m 66 floors Harbour Plaza, east tower Rising
T5 735 feet 224m 62 floors Harbour Plaza, west tower Rising
T5 735 feet 224m 68 floors Ten York Rising
7 673 feet 205m 58 floors L Tower Topped Out
8 669 feet 204m 58 floors 88 Scott Rising
9 663 feet 202m 57 floors Ice West Topped Out
10 643 feet 196m 45 floors Bay-Adelaide East Rising
11 617 feet 188.2m 40 floors Ernst & Young Tower Sinking
12 613 feet 187m 57 floors CASA II Rising
13 604 feet 184m 55 floors U Condos, east tower Rising
14 587 feet 179m 54 floors INDX Condominiums Rising
15 569 feet 174m 35 floors Sun Life Financial Tower Rising
16 551 feet 168m 45 floors Hullmark Centre, north tower Rising
17 550 feet 167.5m 49 floors Lago at the Waterfront Rising
18 544 feet 166m 50 floors Karma Rising
19 528 feet 161m 48 floors FIVE Rising
20 525 feet 161.1m 49 floors X2 Rising
Great list - I wasn't aware of some of these so thanks! Aura is turning out quite nicely and is very imposing in the skyline now. The two Ice's, two Harbour's and Ten York are 5 +200 m towers U/C in practically a city block.. Insane!
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