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View Poll Results: Select all states that fit your definition of "west coast"
California 40 61.54%
Oregon 3 4.62%
Washington 11 16.92%
Hawaii 0 0%
Alaska 2 3.08%
Arizona 3 4.62%
Nevada 2 3.08%
Idaho 1 1.54%
Montana 0 0%
Wyoming 0 0%
Utah 1 1.54%
Colorado 1 1.54%
New Mexico 1 1.54%
Voters: 65. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-02-2009, 11:32 PM
 
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who in the hell picked Utah???
Most likely someone who thinks the Great Salt Lake is the Pacific.

Entirely possible. Some people don't get out much around here.
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Old 09-03-2009, 03:58 AM
 
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Here's another way to look at it:

What's the difference between a "western" state and a "west coast" state?

Can we agree that there must be a reason why we have the two different terms?

I think all "west coast" states can be considered "western" states.
But not all "western" states can be called "west coast" states.

Why not?

Because they don't have a "coast".

Maybe that's why they added the word "coast" to the word "western", to specify that it is a "western" state that has a "coast", so everyone would know exactly how far "west" it was - so far west, that it's got a "coast".

So that means CA, OR, and WA are "west coast" states.

TX, CO, UT, ID, MT, WY, NM, AZ and probably a few others, are "western" states, and some fit into more specific labels, such as "southwest", "pacific northwest", and "mountain" states, just as "west coast" is a specific subset of "western states". If you notice, there is a reason for all these "subset" labels, and it has to do with geography and topographic features, not human activities, for no matter what humans do, the greater features of the landscape will prevail.

HI is an island state & proud of it. And although they're out there, I don't know any Hawaiians who consider themselves "west coasters", tho' they may laugh & joke about it if you brought it up.

and Alaska, well, they're so independent up there, I don't think there's too many who really want to be a part of the lower 48 anyway.
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Old 09-03-2009, 02:44 PM
 
Location: West LA
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West coast to me = California. Oregon and Washington I consider to be in the Pacific Northwest along with parts of British Columbia.
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Old 09-03-2009, 03:35 PM
 
Location: 30-40°N 90-100°W
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If we're being cultural I think of the "West" as more libertarianish than "The West Coast." Also as more concerned with mining, ranching, or skiing while less connected culturally/economically to the "Pacific Rim." Going by that I might back off on even counting Nevada as "West Coast", which I started counting only grudgingly after complaints that "this isn't geographic."

I really would think of it as mostly California then Oregon and Washington. Hawaii and Alaska afterward, but maybe not.
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Old 09-03-2009, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Pasadena
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I would say Washington, Oregon, California
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Old 09-03-2009, 03:51 PM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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The ones that are literally on the West Coast. Plain and simple. Washington, Oregon, and California. If you really wanted to push the limits I guess I might include Idaho, Nevada, and Arizona, but given how much bigger western states are then eastern states, the definition is pretty clear cut. Any states that contain Interstate 5 are the west coast, just like any state that contains Interstate 95 is the East Coast (Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia, (D.C.), Maryland, Delaware, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, and Maine.)
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Old 09-21-2009, 01:15 AM
 
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Same for me except for Arizona. The red rocks of Sedona and the tall cacti around Phoenix feel more interior southwest than West Coast IMO. Nevada is the same except for Vegas. Given the close ties between LA and Vegas and sheer number of California license plates you see on the Strip, it's basically the West Coast.
That same argument can be applied to Phoenix. Tucson looks and feels more like Southwestern city while Phoenix feels and looks more like LA and California. There are many LA residents in Phoenix that moved here in droves starting in the 90's. There are tons of LA natives in Phoenix. I don't see how you can distinguish between Phoenix and Las Vegas because they look pretty much the same with the exception of the strip.

To me, the term West Coast refers to a region not a specific geographic location. That term is used to describe a certain culture. It involves culture, appearance, accents etc. Therefore, I include California, Oregon, Washing, Nevada, Arizona and Hawaii. I don't include Alaska, Idaho and Utah because culturally and physically they look a lot different. When you look at Phoenix and many parts of Southern California, it looks identical. Palm Springs is no different than Phoenix. I don't think the term West Coast literally means on the coast or else. If that definition applies, they you have to eliminate Fresno, Palm Springs a lot of the inland cities in California since they are essentially desert cities.

There is a reason Arizona colleges play in the Pac 10. There is a reason the Suns play in the Pacific conference. There is a reason the Cardinals play in the NFC WEST. Arizona is on Pacific time most of the year. There is a reason Hawaiian Airlines doesn't go further east than Phoenix and includes it in its regular flights. When you can drive from Phoenix to San Diego, and Southern California in 4-5 hours that's say something, you can't do that in Texas. Las Vegas and Phoenix looks and has more in common with Southern California than Portland that's for sure.. LOL..

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Old 09-21-2009, 01:25 AM
 
Location: City of Thorns
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CA, OR & WA the rest aren't even on the coast.... and Hawaii & Alaska are a place of their own.
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Old 09-21-2009, 08:15 AM
 
Location: New England & The Maritimes
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Who voted for Utah
Me.
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Old 09-21-2009, 09:31 AM
 
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Cali, Oregeon, Washington, and Hawaii ...maybe nevada but only the vegas part
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