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Unread 11-02-2009, 03:09 PM
 
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That's what you want this thread to be about but it's not. Aside from ONE poster who brought up recreation as a means to say Nashville is better, everyone else has just tried to state that Nashville is a peer city of Charlotte. No one has made outrageous claims about Nashville being far superior or anything of that sort. You seem to think Charlotte is hurt by being compared to Nashville. Why?

If Charlotte was so clearly ahead of Nashville the two cities wouldn't be compared so often by people on this forum and people in the media.
That's only because people in the media and people on this forum are misinformed... Hello?

If New York is America's #1 city, then that would make it the King city of the U.S.A.!

I wonder who could be America's #2 city. You guessed it, The Queen City of Charlotte baby!

Second in Royalty! Second in banking! L.A. who?
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Unread 11-02-2009, 03:40 PM
 
Location: metro ATL
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In the South more along the lines of Orlando, Tampa, and Baltimore. I know I will get some flack about putting Charlotte and Baltimore in the same category.
You'll get more flack for calling Baltimore Southern.
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Unread 11-02-2009, 03:57 PM
 
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That's what you want this thread to be about but it's not. Aside from ONE poster who brought up recreation as a means to say Nashville is better, everyone else has just tried to state that Nashville is a peer city of Charlotte. No one has made outrageous claims about Nashville being far superior or anything of that sort. You seem to think Charlotte is hurt by being compared to Nashville. Why?

If Charlotte was so clearly ahead of Nashville the two cities wouldn't be compared so often by people on this forum and people in the media.
That may be true, given that many people have said how charlotte may become a major city like atlanta and what nashville's aspiration not so much to become the next charlotte and atlanta but to become something of a greatier tier in contrast to cities like those in kentucky so there was some discussion which is why the topic is interesting.
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Unread 11-02-2009, 04:05 PM
 
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That's what you want this thread to be about but it's not.
What I want is for this thread to go away. It was gone at one point, now it is back.
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Aside from ONE poster who brought up recreation as a means to say Nashville is better
That's the problem right there. Nashville posters thinking their city is "better". Charlotte posters have never made the claims of Charlotte being "better". Charlotte is larger though. Does larger mean "better" to you?
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everyone else has just tried to state that Nashville is a peer city of Charlotte. No one has made outrageous claims about Nashville being far superior or anything of that sort.
This is a contradiction of what you just said. You admitted that a Nashville poster was trying to say that Nashville is "better" than Charlotte. Why back track your previous statement now?
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You seem to think Charlotte is hurt by being compared to Nashville. Why?
I don't care if Charlotte were compared to Ciudad Juarez, Mexico. It still doesn't change the fact that America has MUCH more comparable cities to Charlotte than Nashville.
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If Charlotte was so clearly ahead of Nashville the two cities wouldn't be compared so often by people on this forum and people in the media.
That has more to do with geography than anything. Both cities are in neighboring states within the southeastern US. If they were not in the same region, they would not be mentioned together as much as they are in the media.
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Las Vegas-Paradise, NV MSA 1,865,746 +35.62%
Columbus, OH MSA 1,773,120 +9.95%
Indianapolis-Carmel, IN MSA 1,715,459 +12.48%
Charlotte-Gastonia-Concord, NC-SC MSA 1,701,799 +27.91%
Austin-Round Rock, TX MSA 1,652,602 +32.23%
Nashville-Davidson–Murfreesboro–Franklin, TN MSA 1,550,733 +18.22%
Jacksonville, FL MSA 1,313,228 +16.97%

These cities have a range of about 500,000 and have growth rates at about 10% or higher.
This is a good post. Now, let's look at the "other half" of the story you have completely ignored.

Las Vegas-Paradise, NV MSA 1,865,746 +35.62%
7,900 sq/mi of land

Columbus, OH MSA 1,773,120 +9.95%
4,000 sq/mi of land

Indianapolis-Carmel, IN MSA 1,715,459 +12.48%
3,800 sq/mi of land

Charlotte-Gastonia-Concord, NC-SC MSA 1,701,799 +27.91%
3,000 sq/mi of land

Austin-Round Rock, TX MSA 1,652,602 +32.23%
4,200 sq/mi of land

Nashville-Davidson–Murfreesboro–Franklin, TN
MSA 1,550,733 +18.22%
5,700 sq/mi of land

Jacksonville, FL MSA 1,313,228 +16.97%
3,300 sq/mi of land

At 5,700 sq/mi of land, a couple of these "peers" of Nashville (Indy and Charlotte) would EASILY have over 2 million people in their metros. This is why I have said on other threads that I like the Indy vs Charlotte comparison.
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Unread 11-02-2009, 04:08 PM
 
Location: A Small Metro In Southeastern Virginia Called Virginia Beach/Norfolk.
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I've got Charlotte on this one.
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Unread 11-02-2009, 04:57 PM
 
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Charlotte's skyline is way better than Nashville's and it has received a lot of media attention and interest before the market collapse.

Of course, a skyline is one aspect of a city, but Nashville failed in the signature tower and charlotte was attracting people like trump and media attention, so urban is not off the mark completely when he indicates that charlotte may have seemed more like a more upcoming city.
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Unread 11-02-2009, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Boston
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Las Vegas-Paradise, NV MSA 1,865,746 +35.62%
7,900 sq/mi of land

Columbus, OH MSA 1,773,120 +9.95%
4,000 sq/mi of land

Indianapolis-Carmel, IN MSA 1,715,459 +12.48%
3,800 sq/mi of land

Charlotte-Gastonia-Concord, NC-SC MSA 1,701,799 +27.91%
3,000 sq/mi of land

Austin-Round Rock, TX MSA 1,652,602 +32.23%
4,200 sq/mi of land

Nashville-Davidson–Murfreesboro–Franklin, TN
MSA 1,550,733 +18.22%
5,700 sq/mi of land

Jacksonville, FL MSA 1,313,228 +16.97%
3,300 sq/mi of land

At 5,700 sq/mi of land, a couple of these "peers" of Nashville (Indy and Charlotte) would EASILY have over 2 million people in their metros. This is why I have said on other threads that I like the Indy vs Charlotte comparison.
I've addressed this several times. You could get rid of FIVE counties in Nashville's MSA and lose a lot of square miles and only 100,000 people. Nashville didn't create its own MSA - the census did.

The guy who brought up recreation isn't even from Nashville and some people who were Charlotte supporters DID say Nashville was inferior and Charlotte was better. Just for the record....

You want to make it seem like Nashville's population is so large because the metro area is so big and it's just not true. We have 5 counties with less than 100,000 people and if you look at the core counties, they are fairly large and the population is not evenly distributed throughout the counties.

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Unread 11-02-2009, 06:05 PM
 
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What I want is for this thread to go away. It was gone at one point, now it is back.
That's the problem right there. Nashville posters thinking their city is "better". Charlotte posters have never made the claims of Charlotte being "better". Charlotte is larger though. Does larger mean "better" to you?This is a contradiction of what you just said. You admitted that a Nashville poster was trying to say that Nashville is "better" than Charlotte. Why back track your previous statement now?
I don't care if Charlotte were compared to Ciudad Juarez, Mexico. It still doesn't change the fact that America has MUCH more comparable cities to Charlotte than Nashville.
That has more to do with geography than anything. Both cities are in neighboring states within the southeastern US. If they were not in the same region, they would not be mentioned together as much as they are in the media.
This is a good post. Now, let's look at the "other half" of the story you have completely ignored.

Las Vegas-Paradise, NV MSA 1,865,746 +35.62%
7,900 sq/mi of land

Columbus, OH MSA 1,773,120 +9.95%
4,000 sq/mi of land

Indianapolis-Carmel, IN MSA 1,715,459 +12.48%
3,800 sq/mi of land

Charlotte-Gastonia-Concord, NC-SC MSA 1,701,799 +27.91%
3,000 sq/mi of land

Austin-Round Rock, TX MSA 1,652,602 +32.23%
4,200 sq/mi of land

Nashville-Davidson–Murfreesboro–Franklin, TN
MSA 1,550,733 +18.22%
5,700 sq/mi of land

Jacksonville, FL MSA 1,313,228 +16.97%
3,300 sq/mi of land

At 5,700 sq/mi of land, a couple of these "peers" of Nashville (Indy and Charlotte) would EASILY have over 2 million people in their metros. This is why I have said on other threads that I like the Indy vs Charlotte comparison.
Now Charlotte's on the same tier as Vegas? This just keeps getting better and better! Shoot for the stars!
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Unread 11-02-2009, 06:12 PM
 
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Now Charlotte's on the same tier as Vegas? This just keeps getting better and better! Shoot for the stars!
The casinos are better in Charlotte. Vegas is too conservative.
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Unread 11-02-2009, 07:07 PM
 
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The casinos are better in Charlotte. Vegas is too conservative.

Cosign. Charlotte is a city of freedom and liberty. Everyone else aren't nothing but a bunch of commie hippies...
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