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View Poll Results: Which of the following cities do you consider "World-Class"?
New York City 398 74.81%
Los Angeles 300 56.39%
Chicago 340 63.91%
Houston 106 19.92%
Dallas 82 15.41%
Phoenix 18 3.38%
Philadelphia 104 19.55%
San Antoine 39 7.33%
San Francisco 292 54.89%
Austin 25 4.70%
Boston 181 34.02%
Washington D.C. 255 47.93%
Seattle 114 21.43%
Denver 29 5.45%
Charlotte 20 3.76%
Portland 19 3.57%
Tucson 12 2.26%
Las Vegas 59 11.09%
Atlanta 87 16.35%
Omaha 17 3.20%
Minneapolis 31 5.83%
Honolulu 39 7.33%
Pittsburgh 16 3.01%
Raleigh 17 3.20%
Other (Please elaborate) 26 4.89%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 532. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-15-2012, 11:27 AM
 
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I'm not even saying Chicago is below San Francisco. I see them as equals but I see nothing notable that puts Chicagoland ahead of the SF Bay Area. They both have their strengths, in fact it can be argued SF Bay Area has even more but why let that stop you.
I'm saying that, the Bay Area is more internationally recognized and important than Chicagoland. Look at the foreign born populations of each. Look at the first entry point for immigrants. Look at the money or number of billionaires in each.

 
Old 09-15-2012, 11:30 AM
 
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NYC
LA
Chicago

I suppose I'd throw DC in there as well
 
Old 09-15-2012, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Nob Hill, San Francisco, CA
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Originally Posted by PosterExtraordinaire View Post
Look at the foreign born populations of each. Look at the first entry point for immigrants. Look at the money or number of billionaires in each.
Here are all three things you're talking about

Foreign born population, factfinder2.census.gov

NYC 5,911,993
LA 5,530,944
SF Bay Area 2,218,512
Miami 2,167,215
Chicago 1,677,303
DC 1,489,700
Houston 1,338,570
Dallas 1,145,585
Boston 1,089,950
Atlanta 752,426
Seattle 632,036
Philadelphia 617,803

Immigration data Yearbook of Immigration Statistics: 2011 | Homeland Security

New York: 183,681
Los Angeles: 86,161
Miami: 71,775
SF Bay Area: 50,987
Washington/Baltimore: 47,594
Chicago: 35,039
Houston: 31,136
Dallas: 28,090
Boston: 25,909
Atlanta: 22,035
San Diego: 21,556
Philadelphia: 18,925
Seattle: 17,823
Riverside: 14,885
Phoenix: 14,013
Detroit: 12,198
Orlando: 10,204
Minneapolis: 10,175

Billionaires Welcome to Forbes

NYC 91
SF Bay Area 43
LA 34
Dallas 26
Chicago 19

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/top-1...8#.UFS-uLKPWqc
http://abcnews.go.com/images/Busines...1018_wmain.jpg

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Old 09-15-2012, 11:48 AM
 
Location: The Magnolia City
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Originally Posted by btownboss4 View Post
It means Houston and Dallas's MSA. Carries a greater % of GDP of the entire CSA than San Francisco does of it's CSA.
Oh, okay.
 
Old 09-15-2012, 11:56 AM
 
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Originally Posted by scrantiX View Post
Here are all three things you're talking about

Foreign born population, factfinder2.census.gov

NYC 5,911,993
LA 5,530,944
SF Bay Area 2,218,512
Miami 2,167,215
Chicago 1,677,303
DC 1,489,700
Houston 1,338,570
Dallas 1,145,585
Boston 1,089,950
Atlanta 752,426
Seattle 632,036
Philadelphia 617,803

Immigration data Yearbook of Immigration Statistics: 2011 | Homeland Security

New York: 183,681
Los Angeles: 86,161
Miami: 71,775
SF Bay Area: 50,987
Washington/Baltimore: 47,594
Chicago: 35,039
Houston: 31,136
Dallas: 28,090
Boston: 25,909
Atlanta: 22,035
San Diego: 21,556
Philadelphia: 18,925
Seattle: 17,823
Riverside: 14,885
Phoenix: 14,013
Detroit: 12,198
Orlando: 10,204
Minneapolis: 10,175

Billionaires Welcome to Forbes

NYC 91
SF Bay Area 43
LA 34
Dallas 26
Chicago 19

Top 10 Cities for Ultra High Net Worth Individuals - ABC News
http://abcnews.go.com/images/Busines...1018_wmain.jpg

Whats that? San Francisco needs major help to compete with NYC, LA and Chicago? I thought so.


Number of billionaires? Youre not actually serious there, are you? Is that proving that 43 billionaires prefer the SF climate? Maybe its that hiking you talk about, or the wine! Sure as hell doesnt prove that the SF economy is more important. Does Dallas have a more important economy than Chicago? Houston even?


You love to inject SF with steroids on this website.
 
Old 09-15-2012, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Nob Hill, San Francisco, CA
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I almost forgot the most important of them all, VC

Silicon Valley is arguably the worlds VC capital. We can thank our guys for giving us a world class business center and a world class economy.

[SDForum] Silicon Valley Leads Venture Capital World (video)
https://www.pwcmoneytree.com/MTPubli...sp?page=region

They write books about the beast that is SV when it comes to VC The VC - The Surreal World of Silicon Valley Venture Capital: Robert von Goeben,Kathryn Siegler: Amazon.com: Books

They writing books about finance in Chicago? What major banks are HQed there anyway? Just curious.
 
Old 09-15-2012, 11:59 AM
 
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I didnt know San Francisco was in the Silicon Valley. That sure is interesting.


Your posts are honestly making me laugh here.
 
Old 09-15-2012, 12:02 PM
 
Location: NYC/D.C.
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Why is ScrantiX using an entire region to compare against alone cities?
 
Old 09-15-2012, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Nob Hill, San Francisco, CA
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Originally Posted by resuelppA View Post
I didnt know San Francisco was in the Silicon Valley. That sure is interesting.

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What is Silicon Valley?

For some people, it's a place. For others, it's a way of doing business. And for others still, it's a synonym for the technology industry.

But whatever meaning you attach to "Silicon Valley," the precise definition has shifted over time as the local economy and technology have evolved. And so, with the publication of the 27th annual SV150 list today, we are expanding our definition of what we mean when we talk about Silicon Valley.

After years of drawing a sharp circle that included Santa Clara County as well as southern San Mateo and Alameda counties, this newspaper is expanding the geographic boundaries that it considers to be part of Silicon Valley to include the five core Bay Area counties: Santa Clara, San Mateo, San Francisco, Alameda and Contra Costa. This is recognition, perhaps overdue, that the kinds of entrepreneurial companies and industries once tightly clustered in the South Bay can now be found throughout the region.

That's certainly the case with San Francisco, which is now by some measures the startup capital of the world. But it's also true to a lesser extent for the East Bay, which has staked its claim to a share of the innovation economy.

When I floated this expanded definition to several people who have long studied Silicon Valley, I expected it to rankle some purists. It did not. The only disagreements came about how far to widen the circle, particularly when it came to
including the East Bay. But no one in my admittedly limited survey expressed disagreement with the fundamental need to revisit the boundaries of Silicon Valley...

O'Brien: Welcome to the new and expanded Silicon Valley - San Jose Mercury News
You must have missed the memo
 
Old 09-15-2012, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Nob Hill, San Francisco, CA
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Originally Posted by LOOK MA NO HANDS View Post
Why is ScrantiX using an entire region to compare against alone cities?
No I'm not, this has been Chicagoland vs SF Bay Area.

Why not? If anyone should have an advantage it should be Chicagoland at everything because it has 2M more people than us but it still doesn't. So what does that say? Exactly
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