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Old 09-30-2009, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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These artists are just one aspect of the music scene but they don't even begin to represent the entire H-Town sound.

I still say it has stronger ties to the slowed down funk of the 90s that was just as popular in Atlanta. Even today you can still find some artists in the A who try to maintain that sound.
It evolved into it's own thing. However, earlier Houston music was very much influenced by the Bay Area.
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Old 09-30-2009, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Just see what I put and it will help you understand.
I don't have to see it because I know what you two are talking about. But what yall dont seem to understand is that is not the predominant Houston sound.

And don't you live in Houston?
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Old 09-30-2009, 07:50 PM
 
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Old 09-30-2009, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Because when I listen to artisits like Z-Ro, Keke, Big Hawk, Pat, and Mike D the last thing I'm thinking about is California.

Next thing I know you gonna be sayin Houston is more like the Bay than Atlanta.
I figured you was going to name people from the SUC. No, go back before then. Go back to the SPC days with Killa Klan, K-Rino, Pharoah, Street Military, PSK13, Trinity Garden Cartel etc.. I'm talking real lyricists that has messages. Not saying that those artists are not bad because they were good at what they did. But these artists opened the doors for Houston and had a similar sound to the West Coast. The hustle game was also influenced by the Bay.

Oh and Houston is not like neither city. Houston is Houston.
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Old 09-30-2009, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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And if you don't count the illegals?
Don't need to. There are nearly 9 million legal citizens alone already throughout the state. Texas does have the 2nd largest Hispanic population in the country for a reason and it isn't even close as they have over 5 million more than the 3rd largest Hispanic state. Hispanics are projected to become the majority in Texas by 2020 if not sooner.

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Do you have information on Mexicans in the different MSA's? All I have is foreign born information.
I have to look that up for you. But I have seen it. It was just a couple years ago.
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Old 09-30-2009, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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A few of them are some of the most popular artists out of Houston and they're bad examples?
They aren't bad examples. They are just not the prime examples that one would use for Houston to show how Houston got it's start. The product of those you just named was Houston's scene evolving. They took what the pioneers started and made their own. It's popular but for those that are old heads, SPC was the sound of Houston in the late 80s and early 90s. This is why many people thought Houston's rap scene was very West Coastish before the South started to come into the scene.
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Old 09-30-2009, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I figured you was going to name people from the SUC. No, go back before then. Go back to the SPC days with Killa Klan, K-Rino, Pharoah, Street Military, PSK13, Trinity Garden Cartel etc.. I'm talking real lyricists that has messages. Not saying that those artists are not bad because they were good at what they did. But these artists opened the doors for Houston and had a similar sound to the West Coast. The hustle game was also influenced by the Bay.

Oh and Houston is not like neither city. Houston is Houston.
But my point is that a majority of Houston sounds more like SUC than those artists you named. Screw was in it from the beginning and he wasnt sounding anything like Cali. UGK either.
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Old 09-30-2009, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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But my point is that a majority of Houston sounds more like SUC than those artists you named. Screw was in it from the beginning and he wasnt sounding anything like Cali. UGK either.
But the point you are not understanding is that UGK (they're not from Houston anyway) nor Screw didn't start the Houston scene. Screw didn't come in until around 91. SPC started around 85. That's a good six years. If you listen to the Bay Area's hip hop and you listen to old Houston's hip hop, you can just hear the obvious similarities in the music. The two areas have a vibe that go way back.
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Old 09-30-2009, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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But my point is that a majority of Houston sounds more like SUC than those artists you named. Screw was in it from the beginning and he wasnt sounding anything like Cali. UGK either.
Back in California, we used to call DJ Screw and chopped and screwed music as "stroke music". It sounds like the person rapping has had a bad stroke.

Going straight to hell for that one, but whatever.

I do like Paul Wall.
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Old 09-30-2009, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Texas
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But the point you are not understanding is that UGK (they're not from Houston anyway) nor Screw didn't start the Houston scene. Screw didn't come in until around 91. SPC started around 85. That's a good six years. If you listen to the Bay Area's hip hop and you listen to old Houston's hip hop, you can just hear the obvious similarities in the music. The two areas have a vibe that go way back.
1985?! Man if you don't go somewhere with that ancient stuff lol. I was little in the 80s but we was listening to Atlantic Starr and Anita Baker in them days lol. Hell, rappers back then still wore tight pants and short shorts.

I'm talking about current times (90s-today). So maybe California had an influence way back then, but what does that have to do with present day?

And UGK arent from Houston, but they hold it down for the H. Plus the GT is only like an hour away, so they mine as well be from Houston.
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