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View Poll Results: Best PT?
Seattle 13 14.61%
Portland 32 35.96%
LA 19 21.35%
Miami 5 5.62%
Houston 2 2.25%
Pittsburgh 6 6.74%
Philadelphia 46 51.69%
Cleveland 9 10.11%
Buffalo 1 1.12%
Twin Cities 4 4.49%
Baltimore 8 8.99%
Cincinnati 1 1.12%
Atlanta 22 24.72%
Other-specify 9 10.11%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 89. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-10-2009, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Spain
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Why is DC not one of the poll options? We have the second highest ridership of any US subway (Metro), and are in the process of building a cohesive streetcar network. Sheesh.

Metro: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/165/3...0ed14de8_b.jpg
Streetcar: http://readysetdc.com/wp-content/upl..._plan_ddot.jpg
Because the title of the thread is "Besides the obvious".
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Old 11-10-2009, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (wilshire/westwood)
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This is LA's future. Happening within 10 yrs too.








Also east LA is starting to revitalize thanks to the new gold line light rail extension through the area that will connect downtown LA with east LA, Boyle Heights being the big chunk of this revitalization process. Maybe i exaggerate the extent of the revitalization happeing in east LA, but there is something and it's real noticable. From new schools to better looking libraries and a beautifull new police station, there's something.

some images of east LA stop.


















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Old 11-10-2009, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (wilshire/westwood)
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Here's a cool map I found. No wonder New York hogs everything.

it's funding for Mass transit/public transit.
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Old 11-10-2009, 09:56 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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^it's really messed up how much the federal govt screws LA and Ca in general. Yeah, give the least amount of funding per capita to the city with the worst congestion in the nation.
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Old 11-10-2009, 10:01 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (wilshire/westwood)
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^it's really messed up how much the federal govt screws LA and Ca in general. Yeah, give the least amount of funding per capita to the city with the worst congestion in the nation.

exactly.

it's sicking. California should be a main focale point for public transit intrest and funding.
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Old 11-11-2009, 12:42 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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I think a lot of the funding went to places that had their act together and could come up with concrete plans and initiatives (more or less shovel-ready) to use these projects. The problem is that LA's government and its populace has been notoriously short-sighted and not that the feds have slighted LA.

As far as NYC hogging the budget, the funds relative to the population is much in the favor of most other metros. Understandable since NYC has already built a very extensive system, but it's still unfair to say NYC is hogging the funds.
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Old 11-11-2009, 01:33 AM
 
Location: The State Of California
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Default Take A 2cond Look........

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I think a lot of the funding went to places that had their act together and could come up with concrete plans and initiatives (more or less shovel-ready) to use these projects. The problem is that LA's government and its populace has been notoriously short-sighted and not that the feds have slighted LA.

As far as NYC hogging the budget, the funds relative to the population is much in the favor of most other metros. Understandable since NYC has already built a very extensive system, but it's still unfair to say NYC is hogging the funds.
Look at the funding Map for 2010 again.................LA has it's self together...something is rotten
in Washington DC........................
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Old 11-11-2009, 02:01 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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I see the map. I understand LA is getting a very little in funds in proportion to its population though perhaps you might have missed the part where LA has received an additional 66.7 million to what the green circle represents. So that's 66.7 + 9.5 = 76.2 million.

Even with that, it's true that LA did not receive a good number of funds in proportion to its population when compared to the other cities on the map. However, that's from not having enough plans ready and willing to go to warrant funding. There has been constant infighting within the various municipalities and neighborhoods in LA when it comes to mass transit. The population as a whole has been reluctant to abandon the automobile and fund crucial projects despite the change of heart of some city leaders. The process for federal funding has been fairly transparent and LA has not been very active nor very ready. Sacramento on the other hand has very strong public support for mass transit and has already had proposed lines in fairly advanced stages of planning--this played a large part in why Sacramento did receive a good amount while LA did not.
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Old 11-11-2009, 02:09 AM
 
Location: NYC
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The population as a whole has been reluctant to abandon the automobile and fund crucial projects despite the change of heart of some city leaders.
I guess Measure R, the half-cent sales tax to fund transit projects that LA voters approved a year ago by a 2/3 majority isn't good enough?
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Old 11-11-2009, 02:19 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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I guess Measure R, the half-cent sales tax to fund transit projects that LA voters approved a year ago by a 2/3 majority isn't good enough?
Have you read the details about Measure R? A timeline of THIRTY YEARS to get a subway to Santa Monica? A mere extension to Westwood to take at least TWENTY? Most of the details for the expansions are still fairly murky. It's a wonderful thing that the measure passed, but keep in mind that Measure R included highway and street improvements and expansions--definitely not just a vote for mass transit.
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