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Which is true but no demographic have left in the numbers that blacks seem to be leaving California.
Blacks are leaving Cali but they still have the 4th largest Black population in the US and will continue to have so for the forseeable future. Blacks are moving out of LA and SF to the Central Valley.
Blacks in Texas for the most part stay in Texas just like the rest of Texans. The ones that leave always end up coming back. LA is not a hot destination for blacks like it has been in the past. Blacks are leaving the golden state in record numbers.
Exactly, Because MOST blacks in Texas, left Texas for California during the 1st Great Migration, and ALOT are moving back. I know MANY people in Texas who have relatives in California.
I just came across this report, and it's pretty interesting. This is from the Brookings Institute, and shows the top air markets from each metro area. This is a very good indicator of how connected cities are to each other.
These are the top air travel markets from Atlanta, Dallas & Houston and the results are from this year - so new data!
Atlanta
Miami/Ft. Lauderdale
New York/Newark
Orlando
D.C./Baltimore
Los Angeles
Chicago
Dallas/Ft. Worth
Tampa
Philadelphia
Las Vegas
Dallas
Houston
Los Angeles
San Antonio
Atlanta
Austin
New York/Newark
Chicago
Miami/Ft. Lauderdale
Denver
D.C./Baltimore
Houston
Dallas/Ft. Worth
New York/Newark
Los Angeles
New Orleans
Atlanta
Chicago
Miami/Ft. Lauderdale
Denver
Phoenix
Las Vegas
This proves how "intertwined" the three are, and where the majority of business is conducted from each.
Just for fun, these are the top 10 air markets for the entire Country:
Miami/Ft. Lauderdale - New York/Newark
Los Angeles/Long Beach/Santa Ana - San Francisco/Oakland/San Jose
Atlanta - Miami/Ft. Lauderdale
Chicago - New York/Newark
Atlanta - New York/Newark
Los Angeles/Long Beach/Santa Ana - New York/Newark
New York/Newark - Orlando
New York/Newark - London
Las Vegas - Los Angeles/Long Beach/Santa Ana
Los Angeles/Long Beach/Santa Ana - Phoenix
I think the international community actually knows the difference between Texas and the American South. You have many different articles stating this. When many think of Texas, they don't think of the South as we know it. They think of the cattle herding, cowboy riding, horseback riding, saloon drinking, wide open spaces, ranch living, dry area like Texas with hardly any trees.
Exactly, the stereotypical Texas of the Wild Wild West.
Why oh why do these threads always degenerate into Atlanta vs the state of Texas...it beats the hell out of me.
Atlanta, Dallas, and Houston are all large, very vibrant cities with booming populations and growing immigrant communities. Atlanta is definitely known as the Capital of the South and people outside of the US see it as the city in the American South. Movies like Gone with the Wind and historic personalities like MLK have contributed to this perception. They also know the state of Georgia as a quintessential Southern state. When I lived abroad and said that I was from Georgia, some folks would break into the first few notes of the song Georgia On My Mind. LOL! I kid you not!
Texas on the other hand--while it may be Southern--definitely has its own identity. When people outside of the States think of Texas, they associate with.....Texas! It's one of the few states in the country that has such a noticeable identity.
As far as who has influence over what, I don't think any of these cities have any influence over each other. However I can say that in regards to business and economy, business entities in all three tend to set up operations or branches in at least one of the other two. In regards to history, a lot of Georgians relocated to Texas in the 19th Century as opportunities opened up.
As far as migratory patterns, I can honestly attest that I have a lot of friends here in Atlanta that are native Texans and prefer Atlanta to Houston and Dallas. Needless to say, I'm sure you can find native Atlantans in Dallas or Houston that feel the same way about their hometown.
If we're talking about music, Atlanta has emerged as a hub of the music business--in not only hip hop, but also in indie rock and country. Houston has had a very vibrant hip hop scene for 20 years and arguably was the first Southern city to emerge back when hip hop was dominated by NY, LA, and even some Oakland acts.
All three cities function in different capacities, although overall they share a lot of attributes. We could argue all day about every single minute, trivial bit of detail--but what's the point? It all comes down to personal preference at the end of the day.
I think the international community actually knows the difference between Texas and the American South. You have many different articles stating this. When many think of Texas, they don't think of the South as we know it. They think of the cattle herding, cowboy riding, horseback riding, saloon drinking, wide open spaces, ranch living, dry area like Texas with hardly any trees.
I know that is why I said Texas is kinda different.Yet as much as they identify that with Texas,they also Identify with the accents,"big hair",pick-up trucks,civil war,civil-rights ,football,etc.All things that are more closely associated with the South as a whole.
I just came across this report, and it's pretty interesting. This is from the Brookings Institute, and shows the top air markets from each metro area. This is a very good indicator of how connected cities are to each other.
These are the top air travel markets from Atlanta, Dallas & Houston and the results are from this year - so new data!
Atlanta
Miami/Ft. Lauderdale
New York/Newark
Orlando
D.C./Baltimore
Los Angeles
Chicago
Dallas/Ft. Worth
Tampa
Philadelphia
Las Vegas
Dallas
Houston
Los Angeles
San Antonio
Atlanta
Austin
New York/Newark
Chicago
Miami/Ft. Lauderdale
Denver
D.C./Baltimore
Houston
Dallas/Ft. Worth
New York/Newark
Los Angeles
New Orleans
Atlanta
Chicago
Miami/Ft. Lauderdale
Denver
Phoenix
Las Vegas
This proves how "intertwined" the three are, and where the majority of business is conducted from each.
Just for fun, these are the top 10 air markets for the entire Country:
Miami/Ft. Lauderdale - New York/Newark
Los Angeles/Long Beach/Santa Ana - San Francisco/Oakland/San Jose
Atlanta - Miami/Ft. Lauderdale
Chicago - New York/Newark
Atlanta - New York/Newark
Los Angeles/Long Beach/Santa Ana - New York/Newark
New York/Newark - Orlando
New York/Newark - London
Las Vegas - Los Angeles/Long Beach/Santa Ana
Los Angeles/Long Beach/Santa Ana - Phoenix
It does not surprise me at all that Houston as well as Atlanta both have such strong connections to NYC.Especially Atlanta.It actually backs up the article about New York loosing the most of its residents to one city by far;to Atlanta more than ANY other city in America.Look at the table on page 5.http://www.comptroller.nyc.gov/burea...xv-3-sep07.pdf
I have so many friends that are from NYC.Most of them complain about what they cant stand about Atlanta or the South,but ask them if they gonna move back its always No WAY.Even those that do move back.They realize the stuff they thought they missed while in Atlanta was really smaller than what they made it to be.Sometimes they wish they would have stuck it out.
Why oh why do these threads always degenerate into Atlanta vs the state of Texas...it beats the hell out of me.
Atlanta, Dallas, and Houston are all large, very vibrant cities with booming populations and growing immigrant communities. Atlanta is definitely known as the Capital of the South and people outside of the US see it as the city in the American South. Movies like Gone with the Wind and historic personalities like MLK have contributed to this perception. They also know the state of Georgia as a quintessential Southern state. When I lived abroad and said that I was from Georgia, some folks would break into the first few notes of the song Georgia On My Mind. LOL! I kid you not!
Texas on the other hand--while it may be Southern--definitely has its own identity. When people outside of the States think of Texas, they associate with.....Texas! It's one of the few states in the country that has such a noticeable identity.
As far as who has influence over what, I don't think any of these cities have any influence over each other. However I can say that in regards to business and economy, business entities in all three tend to set up operations or branches in at least one of the other two. In regards to history, a lot of Georgians relocated to Texas in the 19th Century as opportunities opened up.
As far as migratory patterns, I can honestly attest that I have a lot of friends here in Atlanta that are native Texans and prefer Atlanta to Houston and Dallas. Needless to say, I'm sure you can find native Atlantans in Dallas or Houston that feel the same way about their hometown.
If we're talking about music, Atlanta has emerged as a hub of the music business--in not only hip hop, but also in indie rock and country. Houston has had a very vibrant hip hop scene for 20 years and arguably was the first Southern city to emerge back when hip hop was dominated by NY, LA, and even some Oakland acts.
All three cities function in different capacities, although overall they share a lot of attributes. We could argue all day about every single minute, trivial bit of detail--but what's the point? It all comes down to personal preference at the end of the day.
Way to hit the nail on the head yet again, STW.
Last edited by Iconographer; 10-22-2009 at 08:53 PM..
I think the international community actually knows the difference between Texas and the American South. You have many different articles stating this. When many think of Texas, they don't think of the South as we know it. They think of the cattle herding, cowboy riding, horseback riding, saloon drinking, wide open spaces, ranch living, dry area like Texas with hardly any trees.
Actually, Texas is known in many circles internationaly for more than just cowboys, ranches, and cattle herding. Houston in addition to the Metroplex (Dallas-Fort Worth) recieve alot of immigrants since they percieve this as a place of opportunity and a lower cost of living compared with places such as California, New York, and Florida. And not all of them come from Mexico by the way. Houston alone has a huge population of Salvadoreans, Hondurans, Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese, Nigerians, Indians, Pakistanis, in addition to others residing in the city. In some ways Houston is like the Los Angeles of the South, with Dallas-Fort Worth resembling the Bay Area. To a much smaller extent Atlanta is experiencing the same effect.
It does not surprise me at all that Houston as well as Atlanta both have such strong connections to NYC.Especially Atlanta.It actually backs up the article about New York loosing the most of its residents to one city by far;to Atlanta more than ANY other city in America.Look at the table on page 5.http://www.comptroller.nyc.gov/burea...xv-3-sep07.pdf
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It actually shows the power that NYC has. I honestly am surprised it's that high for Houston. I would have thought LA would be 2nd behind DFW. Or even Chicago over NYC.
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