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there were 10 million people living in the south at the time of the civil war in the 1860s... which at the time was about 1/3 of the entire U.S. population.
New Orleans at the time was the 6th most populated city in the United States. Charleston, Richmond and Mobile were all top 25 populated cities.
As a matter of fact, people from Europe were living in Florida long before the north. You know...the Spanish? St. Augustine is the oldest continually occupied city in the United States since 1565.
Without heat in the winter where you are in Chicago, you will DIE. That is not trivial. Even the indians who lived in the region way before its founding had heat. Fire has been around for tens of thousands of years of human use. Modern AC is an invention of the 20th century, widespread use didn't occur until the 1950s.
Most of the United States didn't live in cities at that time
I know how long St. Augustine has been colonized, that means nothing.
Once again, you can live in the North without heat.
Most of the United States didn't live in cities at that time
I know how long St. Augustine has been colonized, that means nothing.
Once again, you can live in the North without heat.
The North is a big region. You are telling me you could survive the Chicago winter with no heat source? Are you a human, or a polar bear who can type? Heat sources are what made terrains such as above adaptable for civilization.
If this is the case how come Chicago has a heat ordinance in effect with significant fines?
Heat Ordinance
13-196-410 Residential buildings--Heat to be furnished.
Every family unit or rooming unit to which heat is furnished from a heating plant used in common for the purpose of heating the various rooms of the dwelling shall be supplied with heat from September 15th of each year to June 1st of the succeeding year so that the occupants of a family unit or rooming unit may secure, without such undue restriction of ventilation as to interfere with proper sanitary conditions, a minimum temperature of 68 degrees at 8:30 a.m. and thereafter until 10:30 p.m., and 66 degrees at 10:30 p.m. and thereafter until 8:30 a.m. averaged throughout the family unit or rooming unit.(Prior code § 78-39; Amend Coun. J. 2-25-88, p. 10733)
The North is a big region. You are telling me you could survive the Chicago winter with no heat source? Are you a human, or a polar bear who can type? Heat sources are what made terrains such as above adaptable for civilization.
If this is the case how come Chicago has a heat ordinance in effect with significant fines?
Heat Ordinance
13-196-410 Residential buildings--Heat to be furnished.
Every family unit or rooming unit to which heat is furnished from a heating plant used in common for the purpose of heating the various rooms of the dwelling shall be supplied with heat from September 15th of each year to June 1st of the succeeding year so that the occupants of a family unit or rooming unit may secure, without such undue restriction of ventilation as to interfere with proper sanitary conditions, a minimum temperature of 68 degrees at 8:30 a.m. and thereafter until 10:30 p.m., and 66 degrees at 10:30 p.m. and thereafter until 8:30 a.m. averaged throughout the family unit or rooming unit.(Prior code § 78-39; Amend Coun. J. 2-25-88, p. 10733)
Yes, the North is a big region and I could live in Chicago, like I've said before, without a heater.
And I've said this before too: Not everything the government makes you do is necessary.
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Originally Posted by polo89
But there are ALOT more entertaining ways to have fun in the HEAT then there is in the cold. ALOT MORE.
That's opinion, especially when the south considers 60 to be cold.
Yes, the North is a big region and I could live in Chicago, like I've said before, without a heater.
And I've said this before too: Not everything the government makes you do is necessary.
That's opinion.
Then you are getting other residual heat from building boiler room, other units, subway, living in a sewer, etc. Right? That is a heat source. You said you could live there without heat, and you are wrong. Perhaps without knowing, it doesn't matter if you do not realize it or not, you are leeching another intelligent humans heat source... You will, with much certainty perish without a heat source. You do realize, as I stated above that humans evolved along side with fire and were able to inhabit areas such as Chicago because of heat sources correct?
Then you are getting other residual heat from building boiler room, other units, subway, living in a sewer, etc. Right? That is a heat source. You said you could live there without heat, and you are wrong. Perhaps without knowing, it doesn't matter if you do not realize it or not, you are leeching another intelligent humans heat source... You will, with much certainty perish without a heat source. You do realize, as I stated above that humans evolved along side with fire and were able to inhabit areas such as Chicago because of heat sources correct?
Just a building and a few blankets. Why are you arguing what one person can handle?
Just a building and a few blankets. Why are you arguing what one person can handle?
A building which no doubt has an HVAC unit, washer and dryers perhaps, boiler room, people cooking with gas stoves, people with a fireplace, etc.. Why do you have such a poor understanding of human physiology or population migrations? Like I said before, it doesn't matter if YOU are providing the heat source, some other, likely intelligent human beings there do have heat sources, and you are just leeching off of it for your own survival. Without it, you WILL die within a matter of days or weeks.
Yes, the North is a big region and I could live in Chicago, like I've said before, without a heater.
And I've said this before too: Not everything the government makes you do is necessary.
That's opinion, especially when the south considers 60 to be cold.
Touche, that is true. It is opinion.
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