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That's the thing though. NYC has the high end fashion that draws the scene from all over the world. But that's not the only form of "fashion" IMO. The way someone puts his or her self together regardless of name brand or budget is a testament to their sense of fashion in some form. NYC is far more casual than people realize, and with millennials living on tight budgets, we don't have tons of disposable income. But we manage to dress very presentable with unique fashions every where you look. I'm sorry, but there is nothing fashionable about owning Vineyard Vines gear in every way, shape, form and wearing a pastel polo with khaki shorts and brown boat shoes. You'll find that here, but it's FAR more common in the south. I've lived in both. You'll find camo in NYC and Carhartt and Realtree, but not in the overwhelming amount you will in some cities in the South.
Yep, absolutely. Fashion is about how you put it together. You could be way more fashionable on $30 than someone at $300 if you put things together well. Plus, a lot of the higher end fashion stuff is not necessarily fashionable. Some is, but some isn't. And I'm speaking as a male on this - a lot of that stuff is more about the cut than anything else. I have numerous sweatshirts/long sleeve t-shirts that were not cheap by any means ($150 - $300 each) and I would call only a small percentage of them actually fashionable. Most of them are functional, extremely comfortable, make my body look even better, will last me a long time, etc. However, fashionable it isn't and that's not the point of a lot of these pieces anyway.
Also, as a now former UWS resident (just moved elsewhere), I think the whole "bougie uptown" thing is overblown even. At least in UWS, it wasn't uppity except for in a few small areas. A lot of casual stuff and in the summer guys in short sleeve t-shirts just walking around. Not much going for fashion one way or another. A lot of standard stuff. Upper East Side in some parts and UWS only in a few is probably more of what you mean when you say Uptown. UWS is a bit better known for being more relaxed and less snooty than UES.
I think it's really more like an urban/rural divide as to how well people dress on average. But NYC is so large and cosmopolitan that you'll see a bit of everything That being said, NYC very clearly not immune from bad fashion. A large chunk chunk of the population is non fashion conscious inmigrants from Latin America and Asia, for instance. There are also plenty of dorks, hobos, conformists, junkies, etc.
It also helps that NYC is not particularly warm, so people don't dress too "comfortable" year round.
And yeah, that’s true about the urban/rural divide. And from the few years I spent living in suburban South Jersey, I feel like you can throw in suburban in there too. It seems like when you’re just in a car all day, you don’t really see the other people too well, and they don’t see you either so it doesn’t matter what you look like.
One thing I noticed is that it seemed like a lot of people didn’t always dress for the weather when I lived in the burbs. If you’re just in your car all day and you only have to actually be outside for a few quick seconds walking through the parking lot, the cold/rain/snow/whatever isn’t going to bother you too much.
Another thing is that a lot of people don’t even get dressed at all. People will just roll out of bed and get into their cars in their pajamas sometimes if they’re feeling lazy. And then run into the store just to grab something. That’s not something that you see walking around the city.
I think there’s less of a need to dress well when you’re driving in a car all day vs. walking around the city all day and taking the subway with a bunch of other people.
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Yep! "Urban" fashion of the US has influenced Europe, Asia, and Latin America
I was going to say I think Asia is influencing The West a lot more these days when it comes to fashion. Just as one example: Opening Ceremony in SoHo in NYC is inspired by Hong Kong. And of course the shop is located right by the Chinatown border too.
And yeah, that’s true about the urban/rural divide. And from the few years I spent living in suburban South Jersey, I feel like you can throw in suburban in there too. It seems like when you’re just in a car all day, you don’t really see the other people too well, and they don’t see you either so it doesn’t matter what you look like.
One thing I noticed is that it seemed like a lot of people didn’t always dress for the weather when I lived in the burbs. If you’re just in your car all day and you only have to actually be outside for a few quick seconds walking through the parking lot, the cold/rain/snow/whatever isn’t going to bother you too much.
Another thing is that a lot of people don’t even get dressed at all. People will just roll out of bed and get into their cars in their pajamas sometimes if they’re feeling lazy. And then run into the store just to grab something. That’s not something that you see walking around the city.
I think there’s less of a need to dress well when you’re driving in a car all day vs. walking around the city all day and taking the subway with a bunch of other people.
I was going to say I think Asia is influencing The West a lot more these days when it comes to fashion. Just as one example: Opening Ceremony in SoHo in NYC is inspired by Hong Kong. And of course the shop is located right by the Chinatown border too.
I would agree about the suburbs too, but it depends really. Because I see a clear difference between how people dress in Nassau or Westchester versus upstate NY. I also think there's a pretty large overlap between NYC and its immediate suburbs. In both places you'll find the hood fashion, the frat bro/finance bro fashion, the rich people fashion, the low income immigrant fashion, etc. I would say that NYC has more hipster fashion and less jock fashion, though.
I think they're the only community in the US I've ever heard of, that took the ridiculous step(if you ask me, I thought our country was founded on freedom of choice? Don't like using that product, then don't use it.....) of banning all cigarette sales(yes even non-menthol cigarettes) and e-cigs in all stores. I would personally vote Beverly Hills as most snobby and snooty, but that's just me.
I think they're the only community in the US I've ever heard of, that took the ridiculous step(if you ask me, I thought our country was founded on freedom of choice? Don't like using that product, then don't use it.....) of banning all cigarette sales(yes even non-menthol cigarettes) and e-cigs in all stores. I would personally vote Beverly Hills as most snobby and snooty, but that's just me.
Lived in Raleigh in 2021. It was pretty down to earth.
stayed there last year for about 5 months and it was possibly the most down to earth major city I’ve stayed in. I don’t think the tech industry will directly turn it snobby.
I loved how down to earth yet professional it was. A fairly rare mix
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Manhattan
Boston
San Francisco
DC/Parts of Inner NOVA
Seattle
...hell, anywhere with Tech
The finance side of tech is where the snobbery and pretentious self importance comes from. It can be nauseating for sure.
The engineers themselves tend to be the opposite, apart from the world domination types. Lol
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