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St. Louis has been and will continue at a greater pace to be on the upswing. The southside has had a huge influx of young people, single and married.
The north can't go down much further and there are huge projects in the works that will greatly change the landscape.
The suburbs are doing just fine. Clayton is adding new residential and office towers.
I am surprised at how much Detroit is being mentioned on here. I'd think that at this stage, Detroit has nowhere to go but up, and that it's already hit "rock bottom" so to speak. Or did the recession hit it while it was down? I've seen a bit of gentrification in Detroit in little areas around Wayne State University and downtown, but I'll admit it's far from Chicago. Still, I fail to see how Detroit could get much worse, aside from Wayne State and all the downtown businesses and casinos packing up and leaving.
I'm surprised more people haven't mentioned Los Angeles here. Although the crime rate is going down, I was under the impression that it's getting harder and harder to get by speaking English there, as opposed to Spanish. Perhaps part of why Miami is getting listed is for that reason (although crime is going down there too).
5Lakes, I think the reason Chicago is getting credit is because it's at about where NYC was 10 or 15 years ago in terms of the city getting cleaned up. It's clearly headed in the right direction, even though large swaths of undeniably dangerous neighborhoods still exist. San Francisco's murder rate today actually isn't THAT much lower than Chicago's
Anyhow, Atlanta is a city I definitely forgot to mention, that is on its way up. Much like Washington DC, its once ridiculously high crime rate is starting to take a tumble, and by what I've seen, there is a LOT of development going on in the inner city right now, both commercial and residential. As far as cities on their way down, I was somewhat disheartened but not surprised to see Orlando on here. I really don't get how they could allow "the happiest place on earth" to get so bad...or is the crime something that just doesn't effect tourists much at all? And also Philly is one city I saw mentioned...the crime rate seems to have climbed a bit lately, but is that more of a blip on the radar or the start of a trend? Is Philly generally going in the direction of becoming more gentrified or more ghetto, or just staying the same?
You made a huge generalization. The "Rust Belt" refers to only the eastern Midwest markets, primarily in Michigan and Ohio and points further east, that have lost numerous manufacturing jobs since the 70s. Places like 80% of Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin and Minnesota or too far west to be considered the Rust Belt. And places like Nebraska, Kansas, Missouri and the Dakotas are remaing parts of the Midwest that were not mentioned. Just thought you'de like to know.
People here in Wisconsin,esp. in the old manufacturing cities of Milwaukee.Racine, Kenosha, Janesville, Beliot etc. would say thats a distinction without a difference.
Uphill:
Chicago
Detroit (Can it really get any lower?)
Indianapolis
Downhill: Cleveland
South Bend
Toledo
Disagree. There is tons of development and the suburbs are still some of the safest and nicest in the nation. Not to mention culturally it's beyond most US cities and still holds one of the best public transportation systems in the nation.
Also, one thing that has impressed me about Chicago is that there does appear to be a good deal of development/gentrification on the Near South Side, with plenty of new condos popping up. Admittedly it's the very north end of the South Side, but still, with luck it may indeed trickle south.
Also, what exactly is happening with Cabrini Green these days?
Orlando took a tumble rather quickly. Just 10 yrs ago it was quite different than it it now. I think it's from the last 5 -7 yrs, who has left the area and who has moved into the area has a lot do do with it's changes, a lot of folks came with the housing boom (a lot of get rich quick scammers - both from up north and also foreigners), and it seems to attracts a lot of transients and malcontents. So you're pretty spot on about Orlando.
Also, what exactly is happening with Cabrini Green these days?
A vast majority of it has been torn down. I believe 6 of the original highrises are still up, and they're re-habbing the 2 story dwellings. It's now mostly this:
Wow, sure looks different. So when it's all done, is it still going to be a ghetto, albeit a much nicer looking ghetto? Or will the old inhabitants be gone, and the apartments totally gentrified and filled with yuppies and such?
Wow, sure looks different. So when it's all done, is it still going to be a ghetto, albeit a much nicer looking ghetto? Or will the old inhabitants be gone, and the apartments totally gentrified and filled with yuppies and such?
Not far enough along to tell yet. It will mostly be market rate units, but there will still be a portion that is subsidized housing. We'll have to wait and see what the results are, as these type of developments have had varying levels of success. I do know that it will be dramatically better than what was there before, and the changes are already very noticeable. One thing that I don't like is the lack of a pedestrian retail going through the area has not really been addressed properly. The new retail built adjacent is in the form of shopping plazas, and it seems like the type of development where people are just going to be driving to and from their condos. Not an ideal situation for being right in the heart of the city. My guess is that it was laid out like this because of safety concerns for the first people to be moving into the development.
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