Cities that offer something that no other cities offer (size, transportation, living)

[supermanpansy]

Originally Posted by worldwanderer

Settle down there pansy. Pointing out the 'realities' about a city doesn't mean someone's "bashing" it.

Many people seem to believe that nyc is somehow immune to having any bad things about it. Like's it's some kind of utopia or something. I wonder though how many people who defend it blindly, are in their mid 30's or older.

You can point out all the "realities" you want. But learn to word things better. I don't care if you prefer Chicago to NY. Chicago's a great city, but you continually give your opinion as if it is fact. Although it might be "fact" to you. It is not to everyone else.

Also and I don't know if it was you, but someone was saying something about Pittsburgh restaurants being equal or better than NY is just crazy. No offense to Pittsburgh, but they are not exactly known for their restaurant scene. Whoever said that could not have been any further from the truth. Take it from someone who has lived there, and this is just my opinion, and sorry yinzers, (I know they will rip me for this) but they have one of the sorriest restaurant scenes I've ever witnessed of a large city. And I too, have done a lot of traveling. Anyway, nothing against Pitt, it is a good city in many aspects but the food scene is not one of them.

[worldwanderer]

Originally Posted by worldismine

Again, simply hillarious. You noticed that law of supply and demand is driving prices in New York (as in any other city, including Chicago) but never bothered to ask a question: why there is such a an extreme demand for New York and not Chicago? Why is the metro area so huge? Why is New York the most densely populated city in the US?
You dance around the issue being afraid to ask the right questions... Why?

I don't believe Chicago has more character than New York. Beautiful neigborhoods Manhattan's like Tribeca, Brooklyn's Park Slope Queen's Forrest Hills and many others offer endless architectural gems and the entire style associated with New York: brownstones. You keep forgetting that Chicago is almost 200 year younger than New York hence New York was able to accumulate much more great architecture than Chicago.

Standard of living is another misunderstanding. It's like saying your "standard of driving" will be higher in Hyundai than Mercedes. Buy a Hyundai. Of course Mercedes is more expensive and of course the price is driven by demand which I leave to you to explain...

And no, people actually make it in New York. Having New York hospital, school or other experience on your resume helps a lot anywhere in the country. In some industries like fashion, publishing, journalism, media, high finance, art, advertising New York it's simply the place to be if you want to advance and be noticed. In many others it is the number one market every one dreams of being able to work with...

As far as the regular "population" is concerend the beauty of New York is that here you can get food that you would have to spend big buck to experience anywhere else in the country. Supply and demand. The same applies to access to culture. Of course, tourist/visitor experience is very very different than experience of actually living in New York. Which explains why the city is so expencive: it's all about the experience.

I don't dance...

NYC has the top amount of Fortune 500 companies , media, stock enchange etc. My point, the realestate prices have NOTHING to do with the quality or "character" of it's buildings or homes. When did I ever say that nyc doesn't have high wage earners? When? The thing is, the rest of the city's population basically exist to service those high wage earners.

Nyc was always the biggest city in terms of immigrants. The tradition goes way back. Just like Chicago, La ,Sf or Miami. The immigrants keep coming year after year to the same cities. Growing up in the 3rd world, what city in the US will you be most likely to hear about, or see in the movies? And what city in the US can you survive without a car the best?

I personally only drive "American" made cars. But, if you need me to explain the difference between a "Hyundai" and a "Mercedes", you're even more lost than I thought.....

When did I ever say that "people don't make it NYC"? See, trying to put words in my mouth, or twisting what I say to make your point, won't work. Atleast not with me.

Please with that food comment. Have you ever left NYC? Seriously, you really think the food in nyc has some type of monopoly or something? There is great food coast to coast. I know one thing, the best pizza I ever ate wasn't in NYC. Neither was the best Chinese. Neither was the best Italian. Neither was the Colombian. Come to think about, I seriously only think that that "Cool Blues" in Soho, is the only thing that stands out in my mind in terms of food. Their cheeseburgers are VERY good.

Other than that? The bar scene in NYC is the best I've ever experienced, I will say that. And the people of nyc are some of the friendliest and most outgoing that I've ever came across.

[DeaconJ]

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[worldwanderer]

Originally Posted by supermanpansy

You can point out all the "realities" you want. But learn to word things better. I don't care if you prefer Chicago to NY. Chicago's a great city, but you continually give your opinion as if it is fact. Although it might be "fact" to you. It is not to everyone else.

Also and I don't know if it was you, but someone was saying something about Pittsburgh restaurants being equal or better than NY is just crazy. No offense to Pittsburgh, but they are not exactly known for their restaurant scene. Whoever said that could not have been any further from the truth. Take it from someone who has lived there, and this is just my opinion, and sorry yinzers, (I know they will rip me for this) but they have one of the sorriest restaurant scenes I've ever witnessed of a large city. And I too, have done a lot of traveling. Anyway, nothing against Pitt, it is a good city in many aspects but the food scene is not one of them.

It was me who made the comment about Pittsburgh restaurants. I was refering to the Italian restaurants there. Now I'm not talking about 5 star dining either. I doubt Pittsburgh has any famous French chefs serving up meals. and I stand behind my statement! Even the NYTimes did an article on it. And they were kind of putting down Little Italy in Mannhattan saying that it changed over the years and wasn't the same as it once was.

Try finding 'wedding soup" in nyc. Hey, even try finding spag & meatballs in an Italian reasturant. I can't tell you how many Italian restaurants in nyc that don't serve spag & meatballs.

Maybe you ain't into Italian food like I am, but nyc is WAY overrated in food (excluding fine dining).

[wpmeads]

Originally Posted by DeaconJ

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lol!

[worldwanderer]

Originally Posted by DeaconJ

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Look at all that sprawl in the background. Was that photo taking in the "city" of Atlanta?

[grapico]

only one area of the country has a mediterannean climate (coastal california) and 2 that are tropical (sofla(also with coral reefs), hawaii)

that is, if you like that kind of stuff...

all being said it is hard for cities to alter their weather patterns.

[supermanpansy]

Originally Posted by worldwanderer

It was me who made the comment about Pittsburgh restaurants. I was refering to the Italian restaurants there. Now I'm not talking about 5 star dining either. I doubt Pittsburgh has any famous French chefs serving up meals. and I stand behind my statement! Even the NYTimes did an article on it. And they were kind of putting down Little Italy in Mannhattan saying that it changed over the years and wasn't the same as it once was.

Try finding 'wedding soup" in nyc. Hey, even try finding spag & meatballs in an Italian reasturant. I can't tell you how many Italian restaurants in nyc that don't serve spag & meatballs.

Maybe you ain't into Italian food like I am, but nyc is WAY overrated in food (excluding fine dining).

You can't judge Italian restaurants by just little Italy. Little Italy is nothing. A few corners. The New York Metro has more Italians than any other area by a large amount. Most reside in NY/ NJ. I am Italian, I don't live in NY but have been there over a hundred times. I grew up close by. I lived in Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh doesn't even have any restaurants. Buffalo blew Pittsburgh away when it comes to restaurants, or excuse me "Italian restaurants. NY blows both cities away. Some of the best Italian I have ever had was in NYC. I didn't even know Pittsburgh had an Italian scene. I lived right near their Italian neighborhood. You might have heard of it. It's called Bloomfield. Pittsburgh was the worst large city for restaurants that I have ever lived in. I think your confusing a few diners on some food network channel as having you think that Pittsburgh has a lot of good restaurants. Their famous for Primantis. That's about all I knew of. Thats a bar/ sport bar type restaurant. Nothing special. They don't have but a handful of upscale Italian restaurants and nothing that would be worth mentioning. Once again. Just my opinion. But for the record, Italian restaurants in Pittsburgh do not blow away or equal that of NY. That was the funniest thing I've ever read on city-data. Any one from Pittsburgh who is honest will tell you that their restaurant scene is non existent.

And besides: Theres too many restaurants in New York for you to know what NY really has to offer. YOu cannot judge NY by just the restaurants that you have been too. You do know that there are over 10,000 restaurants in NYC. I am just taking a wild guess, but I will bet that you have not experienced a small fraction of those.

[DeaconJ]

Originally Posted by worldwanderer

Look at all that sprawl in the background. Was that photo taking in the "city" of Atlanta?

Why do you make these feeble attempts to slander Atlanta when you respond to me? Do you think I live there? And I'm not sure what you consider "sprawl", but all I see in the background is an orange cone, a streetlight, 3 cars, and some trees. None of that indicates sprawl.

The photo was taken at a public library in the "city" of Cleveland, OH. But you feel free to keep going, and going, and going.

[zonababe]

Originally Posted by worldwanderer

Cheap dining in those areas? Really? Especailly in Midtown being the tourist trap that it is. You'll pay more for a slice of pizza there than probably anywhere else in the city cause of this fact. Soho has the art galleries that you mentioned, but cheap dining? Your "100ft" is beyond laughable....it's downright silly....

It's "so convienent" that people have their grocery's delivered?... Isn't that the reason they have there groceries delivered in the first place? Plus, do you really want to grocery shop over the phone? That's for senior citizens who are "shut-ins" if you ask me.

P.S. why would you have a "Subway" sandwich delivered? Was the "100ft walk" too much? Second of all, why would you EVEN eat a "Subway" sandwich when you were in nyc? All the great bodegas in nyc, and you order a sandwich that could be eaten anywhere in America?

There are certain things that will be hard to find in Manhattan, laundry mats, gas stations and super markets.