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Unread 11-15-2009, 07:55 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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I don't dance...

NYC has the top amount of Fortune 500 companies , media, stock enchange etc. My point, the realestate prices have NOTHING to do with the quality or "character" of it's buildings or homes. When did I ever say that nyc doesn't have high wage earners? When? The thing is, the rest of the city's population basically exist to service those high wage earners.

Nyc was always the biggest city in terms of immigrants. The tradition goes way back. Just like Chicago, La ,Sf or Miami. The immigrants keep coming year after year to the same cities. Growing up in the 3rd world, what city in the US will you be most likely to hear about, or see in the movies? And what city in the US can you survive without a car the best?

I personally only drive "American" made cars. But, if you need me to explain the difference between a "Hyundai" and a "Mercedes", you're even more lost than I thought.....

When did I ever say that "people don't make it NYC"? See, trying to put words in my mouth, or twisting what I say to make your point, won't work. Atleast not with me.

Please with that food comment. Have you ever left NYC? Seriously, you really think the food in nyc has some type of monopoly or something? There is great food coast to coast. I know one thing, the best pizza I ever ate wasn't in NYC. Neither was the best Chinese. Neither was the best Italian. Neither was the Colombian. Come to think about, I seriously only think that that "Cool Blues" in Soho, is the only thing that stands out in my mind in terms of food. Their cheeseburgers are VERY good.

Other than that? The bar scene in NYC is the best I've ever experienced, I will say that. And the people of nyc are some of the friendliest and most outgoing that I've ever came across.
Do you ever shut up? STOP.

You've been repeating the same thing for the past 5 pages. We get it!!!! I don't think anyone in NYC cares about what some guy from ****tsburgh thinks of their fine, beautiful, amazing city? I've spent lot's of time in NYC and Chicago and NYC has Chicago's neighborhoods beat soundly.

Who can take someone serious who thinks Pittsburgh has better restaurants than NYC? You think Chicago has more character than NYC but It's probably a peripheral problem since you've already admitted you're half blind. Manhattan > all of downtown Chicago. Comparing outside of downtown Chicago to the outerboroughs of NYC we have , DUMBO, Boreum Hill, Park Slope, Caroll Gardens, Prospect Park, Brooklyn Heights, Fort Greene, Cobble Hill, Windsor Terace, Clinton Hill, "BoCoCa, Riverdale, Forest Hills Gardens, Forest Hills, Kew Gardens, Bayside, Douglaston, Jamaica Estates, Bell Harbour, Neponsit, North Shore, Malba, Whitestone, Richmond Hills/"Ditmars Park", Bellrose, etc, etc. I can go on and on and on.

For ****s sake, the median price of an apartment in outerborough neighborhoods, specifically DUMBO/Brooklyn Heights in Brooklyn is MORE than the Gold Coast of Chicago ($1,188,390 according to trulia)!!!! Pretty impressive for a bunch of "immigrants".

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Unread 11-15-2009, 08:03 PM
 
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You can't judge Italian restaurants by just little Italy. Little Italy is nothing. A few corners. The New York Metro has more Italians than any other area by a large amount. Most reside in NY/ NJ. I am Italian, I don't live in NY but have been there over a hundred times. I grew up close by. I lived in Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh doesn't even have any restaurants. Buffalo blew Pittsburgh away when it comes to restaurants, or excuse me "Italian restaurants. NY blows both cities away. Some of the best Italian I have ever had was in NYC. I didn't even know Pittsburgh had an Italian scene. I lived right near their Italian neighborhood. You might have heard of it. It's called Bloomfield. Pittsburgh was the worst large city for restaurants that I have ever lived in. I think your confusing a few diners on some food network channel as having you think that Pittsburgh has a lot of good restaurants. Their famous for Primantis. That's about all I knew of. Thats a bar/ sport bar type restaurant. Nothing special. They don't have but a handful of upscale Italian restaurants and nothing that would be worth mentioning. Once again. Just my opinion. But for the record, Italian restaurants in Pittsburgh do not blow away or equal that of NY. That was the funniest thing I've ever read on city-data. Any one from Pittsburgh who is honest will tell you that their restaurant scene is non existent.

And besides: Theres too many restaurants in New York for you to know what NY really has to offer. YOu cannot judge NY by just the restaurants that you have been too. You do know that there are over 10,000 restaurants in NYC. I am just taking a wild guess, but I will bet that you have not experienced a small fraction of those.
What kind of an idiot do you take me for? Seriously? You really think that I would judge food from one city neighborhood? How many times does one have to go out to eat before he can draw a conclusion on a certain food? seriously, how many? Is a dozen different times enough? The first time in my life I left a half eaten plate of spag & meatballs at a reastaurant. And this reastaurant was raved by people I talked to.


Have I heard of Bloomfield? Ya, I've heard of it. And I'd take Del's, the Pleasure Bar or Domico's over ANYTHING I've ever eaten in nyc. Also the fresh and hand made pasta at Donnatelli's. Ever eat a pizza or hot sausage sandwich from Pizza Italia? Large peperoni pizza is half the price of nyc's, and better than most. Tell me a restaurant that can be matched for quality with those kind of prices in NYC? Did you happen to eat any of the Pleasure Bar's 'pumpkin' cheescake, probably the best I ever had. How about the Spag Wharehouse in the strip. That's a nice and cheap dining experience with good food (especially their turtle cheesecake).

Primantis, don't like it. To me, that's Pittsburgh's version of Philly's Pat's or Gino's.

The size of nyc and it's ethnic enclaves is a disadvantage also. How far does one have to travel to get diversity in food? Good Italian in Corana, or Flushing, or Jackson Heights? I'm not travelling 20 miles for a hot sausage sandwich!

I don't deny that no city in America can match nyc's high-end fine dining. But I ain't paying $25 bucs or more for a plate of pasta.

Anyone who thinks that Pittsburgh don't have "good" Italian restaurants, hasn't travelled much. Especially how cheap it is to eat out there. Not to mention how GREAT the bar food is there also. Remember now, a lot of this stuff is comfort food. Pittsburgh is great in terms of comfort food, and good cheap take out. In fact, Jessica Parker made that statement after filming "Smart People". She said that Pittsburgh has very good (and I believe she said "cheap) take-out . Now, she's certainly eaten in enough nyc restaurants. But yet, she still was impressed. In fact, I think she said she was "surprised" by it.
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Unread 11-15-2009, 08:06 PM
 
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Do you ever shut up? STOP.

You've been repeating the same thing for the past 5 pages. We get it!!!! I don't think anyone in NYC cares about what some guy from ****tsburgh thinks of their fine, beautiful, amazing city.

Who can take someone serious who thinks Pittsburgh has better restaurants than NYC? You think Chicago has more character than NYC but It's probably a peripheral problem since you've already admitted you're half blind. Manhattan > all of downtown Chicago. Comparing outside of downtown Chicago to the outerboroughs of NYC we have , DUMBO, Boreum Hill, Park Slope, Caroll Gardens, Prospect Park, Brooklyn Heights, Fort Greene, Cobble Hill, Windsor Terace, Clinton Hill, "BoCoCa, Riverdale, Forest Hills Gardens, Forest Hills, Kew Gardens, Bayside, Douglaston, Jamaica Estates, Bell Harbour, Neponsit, North Shore, Malba, Whitestone, Richmond Hills/"Ditmars Park", Bellrose, etc, etc. I can go on and on and on.

For ****s sake, the median price of a house for outerborough neighborhoods, especially DUMBO, Boreum Hill is MORE than the Gold Coast of Chicago!!!! Pretty impressive for a bunch of "immigrants"



You are probably jealous because you have been attacking everybody for saying anything positive about NYC.
Insulting me cause I only half use of one eye......

Keep drinking the nyc "kool-aid".......
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Unread 11-15-2009, 08:10 PM
 
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There are certain things that will be hard to find in Manhattan, laundry mats, gas stations and super markets.
Thank you. The 100ft distance he's talking about is beyond funny.....
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Unread 11-15-2009, 08:23 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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There are certain things that will be hard to find in Manhattan, laundry mats, gas stations and super markets.
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Thank you. The 100ft distance he's talking about is beyond funny.....

LOL.

How do you know? Oooh, that's right you don't...

On this corner of SoHo there is a gas station (BP), a few laundry mats, there are a few small supermarkets, large one Whole Foods or Dean &Deluca.. Big box shopping stores, smaller boutiques, ..restaurants. Basically everything. So yes, there are lot's of places in NYC were everything is right outside your door.

No need to make stuff up if you know nothing about NYC. LOL.

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Unread 11-15-2009, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Unread 11-15-2009, 08:27 PM
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Location: Nevernever land
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What kind of an idiot do you take me for? Seriously? You really think that I would judge food from one city neighborhood? How many times does one have to go out to eat before he can draw a conclusion on a certain food? seriously, how many? Is a dozen different times enough? The first time in my life I left a half eaten plate of spag & meatballs at a reastaurant. And this reastaurant was raved by people I talked to.


Have I heard of Bloomfield? Ya, I've heard of it. And I'd take Del's, the Pleasure Bar or Domico's over ANYTHING I've ever eaten in nyc. Also the fresh and hand made pasta at Donnatelli's. Ever eat a pizza or hot sausage sandwich from Pizza Italia? Large peperoni pizza is half the price of nyc's, and better than most. Tell me a restaurant that can be matched for quality with those kind of prices in NYC? Did you happen to eat any of the Pleasure Bar's 'pumpkin' cheescake, probably the best I ever had. How about the Spag Wharehouse in the strip. That's a nice and cheap dining experience with good food (especially their turtle cheesecake).

Primantis, don't like it. To me, that's Pittsburgh's version of Philly's Pat's or Gino's.

The size of nyc and it's ethnic enclaves is a disadvantage also. How far does one have to travel to get diversity in food? Good Italian in Corana, or Flushing, or Jackson Heights? I'm not travelling 20 miles for a hot sausage sandwich!

I don't deny that no city in America can match nyc's high-end fine dining. But I ain't paying $25 bucs or more for a plate of pasta.

Anyone who thinks that Pittsburgh don't have "good" Italian restaurants, hasn't travelled much. Especially how cheap it is to eat out there. Not to mention how GREAT the bar food is there also. Remember now, a lot of this stuff is comfort food. Pittsburgh is great in terms of comfort food, and good cheap take out. In fact, Jessica Parker made that statement after filming "Smart People". She said that Pittsburgh has very good (and I believe she said "cheap) take-out . Now, she's certainly eaten in enough nyc restaurants. But yet, she still was impressed. In fact, I think she said she was "surprised" by it.

Buddy, your talking about bars and appetizers. Pitt has a couple good diners that only the locals would know about and not much more. I know your not talking about five star restaurants because I know that they don't have any. I don't think that you have ever been to NY let alone lived there to be dissing NY's food scene. I can assure you Pittsburgh has nothing on NY. Im not talkng pizza either. I don't even care for NY pizza excepet for grimaldis in Brooklyn. I have eaten some of the best food bar none in NYC. I don't know where you eat while in NY, but surely you have not found the right places yet. You can not even be serious about the Pittsburgh thing. I lived there, I know there isn't nothing there. Culinary wise Buffalo blows Pittsburgh away. You can't even compare the NYC restaurant scene to Pittsburgh. They aren't even comparible to any extent. And by the way people, for those who don't know. Bloomfield in Pittsburgh, (Pittsburghs predominately Italian neighborhood) is very small and has the worst diner you'll ever eat in right in the heart of Bloomfield. Beyond that, I can't event think of any restaurants in Bloomfield. There is a pizza and chinese place. Some bars, a pharmacy, dollar store, tobbaco, grocery store, cricket, et. What great Italian restaurant scene are you talking about? Name ten five star restaurants in Pittsburgh. That should be easy. A major city only ten. Of what you named how many are bars?

Please don't argue this specific thing anymore. There is no way that you will convince people that Pittsburgh is on the same culinary level as NYC. If you don't believe me, look up Pittsburgh and the opinion of others regarding their restaurant scene. The Macaroni co. That's funny. Actually I was offered a job there years back in their deli area. Needless to say, I didn't take it....
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Unread 11-15-2009, 08:28 PM
 
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Here you go again. I already pointed to you that there is much more demand for living space in new York than in Chicago hence there has to be something in New York that pulls people here...

Character of buidlings? New York is 200 years older. Where do you have Tribecas and Sohos in Chicago? Where is Park Slope. Central Park West?
Don't embarass yourself...

Food? Well that's very subjective and personal yet I wanted to point out that New York as opposed to Chicago and most cities has a real Chinatown (LA and SF, I remember) so where would you expect better Chinese food? In a place with few hundred Chinese or few hundred thousand? The same goes for Italian. I don't care about cheesburgers but when it comes to ethnic food New York beats most cities because it is so diverse and because the city never killed mom-and-pop restuarants with endless Arby's and Potbellies... Please I travelled and tried a lot of food outside of New York and in most locations you have to spend big bucks to get decent quality food. New York is again unique in this aspect.

Think before you embarass yourself any further...

Trying to keep things on topic I wanted to point out that New York is the most uniqe US city as it offers a truly world-class cultural experience (usually ranked top three in the world, together with much much older Paris and London), offers true pedestrian culture with excellent public transportation and like no other American city is truly cosmopolitan...
After all United Nations is headquartered right here...


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I don't dance...

NYC has the top amount of Fortune 500 companies , media, stock enchange etc. My point, the realestate prices have NOTHING to do with the quality or "character" of it's buildings or homes. When did I ever say that nyc doesn't have high wage earners? When? The thing is, the rest of the city's population basically exist to service those high wage earners.

Nyc was always the biggest city in terms of immigrants. The tradition goes way back. Just like Chicago, La ,Sf or Miami. The immigrants keep coming year after year to the same cities. Growing up in the 3rd world, what city in the US will you be most likely to hear about, or see in the movies? And what city in the US can you survive without a car the best?

I personally only drive "American" made cars. But, if you need me to explain the difference between a "Hyundai" and a "Mercedes", you're even more lost than I thought.....

When did I ever say that "people don't make it NYC"? See, trying to put words in my mouth, or twisting what I say to make your point, won't work. Atleast not with me.

Please with that food comment. Have you ever left NYC? Seriously, you really think the food in nyc has some type of monopoly or something? There is great food coast to coast. I know one thing, the best pizza I ever ate wasn't in NYC. Neither was the best Chinese. Neither was the best Italian. Neither was the Colombian. Come to think about, I seriously only think that that "Cool Blues" in Soho, is the only thing that stands out in my mind in terms of food. Their cheeseburgers are VERY good.

Other than that? The bar scene in NYC is the best I've ever experienced, I will say that. And the people of nyc are some of the friendliest and most outgoing that I've ever came across.
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Unread 11-15-2009, 08:30 PM
 
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Unread 11-15-2009, 08:33 PM
 
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LOL.

How do you know? Oooh, that's right you don't...

On this corner of SoHo there is a gas station (BP), a few laundry mats, there are a few small supermarkets, large one Whole Foods or Dean &Deluca.. Big box shopping stores, smaller boutiques, ..restaurants. Basically everything. So yes, there are lot's of places in NYC were everything is right outside your door.

No need to make stuff up if you know nothing about NYC. LOL.

I belive he said "hard to find", not "impossible to find"!

Who are you kidding, are you trying to sell the "100ft to everything" bs also?
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