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View Poll Results: Dallas Versus Philadelphia: Which City Is More Important? Which City Would You Prefer To Live In?
DALLAS 106 34.64%
PHILADELPHIA 168 54.90%
TOO CLOSE TO CALL 11 3.59%
DON'T KNOW 2 0.65%
DON'T CARE 19 6.21%
Voters: 306. You may not vote on this poll

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Unread 11-16-2009, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Sarasota, Florida
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Talking Dallas Versus Philadelphia: Which City Is More Important? Which City Would You Prefer To Live In?

Both cities are obviously very important to our economy and national identity.

Dallas city has 1.3 Million residents with a density of 3,700 per square mile. It's Metropolitan area has 6.3 Million residents. Dallas has a GDP of 338 Billion Dollars and is home to 14 Fortune 500 companies.

SEE: Dallas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Philadelphia city has 1.4 Million residents with a density of 10,700 per square mile. It's Metropolitan area has 6.4 Million residents. Philadelphia has a GDP of 388 Billion Dollars and is home to 6 Fortune 500 companies.

SEE: Philadelphia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Further References: List of cities by GDP - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Fortune 500 2009: Cities with most companies - FORTUNE on CNNMoney.com

Overall I'd say it's pretty even as far as importance; though Philadelphia has a larger economy but Dallas has more than 2 times as many Fortune 500's.

I prefer Philadelphia's center city...it is much more cohesive and geographically compact; so I'd prefer Philadelphia; also I am biased since I grew up in Scranton.

Which city do you feel is more important? Which city do you prefer to live in? Please be civil!!!! Use references to back up economic importance. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_...,_Pennsylvania http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUa-r4wGm2E for Dallas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKKQO57BAic for Philadelphia.

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Unread 11-16-2009, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex
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Dallas!
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Unread 11-16-2009, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Dallas has a GDP of 338 Billion Dollars.
Philadelphia has a GDP of 388 Billion Dollars
Your Gross Product Info is incorrect. This is the latest available data from the Bureau of Economic Analysis(US Commerce Dept). Even at MSA level, Dallas' GDP is considerably larger at this point.

8. Dallas-Fort Worth, TX CSA $383.082 Billion
Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX Metro Area $379,863
Sherman-Denison, TX Metro Area $3,219

9. Philadelphia-Camden-Vineland, PA-NJ-DE-MD CSA $351.680 Billion
Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD Metro Area $331,897
Reading, PA Metro Area $14,838
Vineland-Millville-Bridgeton, NJ Metro Area $4,945

http://bea.gov/newsreleases/regional..._metro0909.pdf
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Unread 11-16-2009, 10:22 PM
 
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Dallas, by far. I could NEVER live on the East Coast!!
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Unread 11-16-2009, 10:26 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville,Florida
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Dallas is a cleaner looking city and I love their new beautiful freeway system..
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Unread 11-16-2009, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Villanova Pa.
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Your Gross Product Info is incorrect. This is the latest available data from the Bureau of Economic Analysis(US Commerce Dept). Even at MSA level, Dallas' GDP is considerably larger at this point.
The catchment area is also considerably larger, like 3x or 4x the land area.

Reading, Trenton, Vineland, Allentown, Dover, Atlantic City, Lancaster all get included in Phillys MSA if Philadelphia were given the lax parameters of the sweeping upstart metroes like Dallas.GDP would be pushing $500M
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Unread 11-16-2009, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Plano, TX (Russell Creek)
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The catchment area is also considerably larger, like 3x or 4x the land area.

Reading, Trenton, Vineland, Allentown, Dover, Atlantic City, Lancaster all get included in Phillys MSA if Philadelphia were given the lax parameters of the sweeping upstart metroes like Dallas.GDP would be pushing $500M
Have you considered that most of DFW's land are is sparsely populated? 85% of the people live in 30% of the land area. If you take DFW's core population area, it would be smaller than Metro Philly and with almost as many people.
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Unread 11-16-2009, 10:43 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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The catchment area is also considerably larger, like 3x or 4x the land area.

Reading, Trenton, Vineland, Allentown, Dover, Atlantic City, Lancaster all get included in Phillys MSA if Philadelphia were given the lax parameters of the sweeping upstart metroes like Dallas.GDP would be pushing $500M
What are the different parameters that DFW is receiving that the Philly metro isn´t? I was under the impression that the MSAs and CSAs all had the same parameters - that of percentage of commuters to the main cities. Either way, Reading and Vineland are included in these CSA numbers that 18Montclair provided.

The way I see it, both are indeed similar in ¨importance,¨ but if current population trends stay the same, and Dallas and Fort Worth finds continued success in infill and urbanization, it won´t be long before DFW steps firmly ahead of Philadelphia.
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Unread 11-16-2009, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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What are the different parameters that DFW is receiving that the Philly metro isnt?
Absolutely NONE.
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Unread 11-16-2009, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Villanova Pa.
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What are the different parameters that DFW is receiving that the Philly metro isn´t?
The Dallas Metro is nearly 11,000 sq miles . Philadelphias is 3,900 sq miles.What are you guys using to commute down there to justify a 11,000 sq mile metro? Rocketships.

Also How about the vacuuming parameter that is NYC. The city limits of Philadlephia and Trenton are 15 miles apart. Trenton to NY 70 miles. Trenton(Mercer County) is inexplicably a part of NYCs CMSA. Theres $50 M of GDP that should be in Philly thats not.
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