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View Poll Results: Most authentic southern state
Virginia 6 2.78%
North Carolina 7 3.24%
South Carolina 15 6.94%
Georgia 15 6.94%
Florida 4 1.85%
Alabama 39 18.06%
Mississippi 78 36.11%
Louisiana 18 8.33%
Texas 12 5.56%
Arkansas 9 4.17%
Tennessee 10 4.63%
Kentucky 3 1.39%
Voters: 216. You may not vote on this poll

 
 
Old 12-11-2009, 05:00 PM
 
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I agree with everything you say, BUT there are certain people out there in West Texas including Odessa, Midland, Van Horn, etc, etc, that do not consider themselves Southerners, but rather Westerners. Heck, I even knew people in Austin that don't consider themselves Southerners, they rather consider themselves Westerners or just Texans.
Once again, I see your point and for sure people in far western and far southern parts of the state are less likely to see themselves as "Southern" as those in the eastern and northern two/thirds of the state.

BUT..even in most of west and south Texas --according to the latest sociological self-identication surveys done -- a majority easily consider themselves to live in the South and be Southerners, as opposed to West and Westerners. This is starkly contrasted with New Mexico and Arizona, where the opposite is the preference.

Of course, it is just my opinion, but I always felt that self-identification with a region is, arguably, the most important of all.

Anyway, this map (IMHO of course, LOL) was one of the best ever done:

Cultural regions of the south map
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Old 12-11-2009, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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LOL@ the poll. The fact that Texas has more votes than South Carolina and as many as Georgia makes me laugh. Clearly these 6 people have never been to Brownsville or El Paso.
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Old 12-11-2009, 05:35 PM
 
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LOL@ the poll. The fact that Texas has more votes than South Carolina and as many as Georgia makes me laugh. Clearly these 6 people have never been to Brownsville or El Paso.
Haha, Or even Austin, San Antonio, Del Rio, Laredo, McAllen, or Kingsville.
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Old 12-11-2009, 05:43 PM
 
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Once again, I see your point and for sure people in far western and far southern parts of the state are less likely to see themselves as "Southern" as those in the eastern and northern two/thirds of the state.

BUT..even in most of west and south Texas --according to the latest sociological self-identication surveys done -- a majority easily consider themselves to live in the South and be Southerners, as opposed to West and Westerners. This is starkly contrasted with New Mexico and Arizona, where the opposite is the preference.

Of course, it is just my opinion, but I always felt that self-identification with a region is, arguably, the most important of all.

Anyway, this map (IMHO of course, LOL) was one of the best ever done:

Cultural regions of the south map
Touche. That map seems somewhat accurate. It has the transition zone around Austin San Antonio the Hill Country and South Texas and it has the WHOLE Trans-Pecos region and the horn of Texas and the WHOLE South Texas below San Antonio as straight up NOT part of the South. That map seems kinda accurate to me.
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Old 12-11-2009, 05:54 PM
 
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Touche. That map seems somewhat accurate. It has the transition zone around Austin San Antonio the Hill Country and South Texas and it has the WHOLE Trans-Pecos region and the horn of Texas and the WHOLE South Texas below San Antonio as straight up NOT part of the South. That map seems kinda accurate to me.

Yeah, I definitely agree with that map! (JJW did a great job on it). But important to remember that at one time, Austin...and even San Antonio...were dominated by Southern culture and history. Today, Austin has become California East/South. And San Antonio being reclaimed by Mexico. But it wasn't always that way. The older parts of each are still Southern, in most ways....
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Old 12-11-2009, 10:39 PM
 
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Anyway, Texas is a Southern state. What are your reasons/credentials to disqualify it? Or? To disbelieve those who feel otherwise. I honestly anxiously await!

BTW - I voted Mississippi. That it happens to be my primary "ancestral home-state" doesn't influence.
You go a point Texas is very southern... Just Southwestern... I think the aim of this poll was more like, traditional southern. There's a large difference in culture of acclaimed southern states vs. Texas.
I voted 'Bama, cuz Tim Tebow cried and it made me happy.... Plus it's my ancestral home-state
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Old 12-12-2009, 12:14 AM
 
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You go a point Texas is very southern... Just Southwestern... I think the aim of this poll was more like, traditional southern. There's a large difference in culture of acclaimed southern states vs. Texas.
I voted 'Bama, cuz Tim Tebow cried and it made me happy.... Plus it's my ancestral home-state
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I voted 'Bama, cuz Tim Tebow cried and it made me happy....
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Amen!

That man-child crying like that was totally unacceptable....just shouldn't ever happen from a seasoned college athlete.
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Old 12-12-2009, 12:31 AM
 
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Well, I gotta say I voted Mississippi. That is MY ancestral home. My heart and mind and knack for BS is solid in Texas (the WESTERN South)...but most of my kin came from the state which is pronounced "M..eye...crooked letter crooked letter eye...humpback humpback eye.." Gotta visit it and spend time there someday!
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Old 12-12-2009, 12:36 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Don't believe anyone who says Texas. Texas is not a Southern state, so it is disqualified (Nothing against Texas).
Whoa, who said you could disqualify???
Not that I care, but who are you to say Texas IS or ISN'T southern?
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Old 12-12-2009, 10:45 PM
 
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(For many years San Antonio was called a "blend of Old Mexico and Old South")

Today? It is very much going back the opposite direction. In fact, that is an understatement...it already HAS! LOL Anyway, I don't how to label large parts of South Texas, anymore. Despite its large and majority hispanic population, it is still not "Southwest" as in NM or AZ...or even El Paso. But it has definitely lost a lot of classic "Southern flavor" (although the presence -- as Mr. McCoy and Spade have noted --is still very much there in many areas).

Oh well...that is a confusing one! [/quote]

I live in San Antonio although I may not say I'm a southern and would say I live in the south and not the west or even southwest. I would say I'm Texan first, graphically speaking you can't go much further south than SA in the way of a large city except Miami. Houston being 200 miles to the east is slightly north of SA. SA is a blend of Old Mexico and Old South as well as German culture. SA didn't become majority Hispanic until the 1970 census, all these cultures played a role. My pick was Mississippi too they don't have large city with a flood of people from all over the US like Atlanta or Charlotte.
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