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Old 01-11-2011, 07:51 PM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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Yes! Both colder in the winter AND hotter in the summer. The Dakotas, for instance, can get to -50 in the winter and 115 in the summer. That's nuts!
Yeah, the lake moderation effectively makes Chicago winters (if you are actually in the city and not far flung burbs) about the same as downstate IL or Indiana

 
Old 01-11-2011, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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If you think Chicago has milder winters than cities in other midwestern states I'd beg to differ.
Spend a winter in Duluth or Fargo and get back to us.

Not only is it colder up there, but the kicker is that the winters are a month to 6 weeks longer. My ex in-laws had (still have for all I know) a cabin in northern Wisconsin. The average overnight low up there in January is -2. That's average meaning there are plenty of nights of 10 to 15 below. But that wasn't even the alarming part; you can always put on more layers and go about your business. The alarming part is there were some years where people were still snowmobiling across the lakes in April. Ice trial season (basically autocross on ice/snow) up there goes well into Mid-March -- meaning on St. Patrick's Day the ice is still thick enough to drive your car on the lakes.

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Comparing winters in Chicago to Detroit for example Chicago definitely has harsher winters than here. When its cold here, its freezing in Chicago. Yes there are those exceptions but from my experiences in Chicago, it always seems colder in the winter and hotter in the summer there than it does here.
In Chicago the average January high is 30 and the average low is 15. In Detroit it's 31 and 18, respectively. The average July high in Chicago is 83 and the average low is 63. In Detroit the average July high and low are... 83 and 63. In short, the climates in Chicago and Detroit are identical.
 
Old 01-11-2011, 10:01 PM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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Spend a winter in Duluth or Fargo and get back to us.

Not only is it colder up there, but the kicker is that the winters are a month to 6 weeks longer. My ex in-laws had (still have for all I know) a cabin in northern Wisconsin. The average overnight low up there in January is -2. That's average meaning there are plenty of nights of 10 to 15 below. But that wasn't even the alarming part; you can always put on more layers and go about your business. The alarming part is there were some years where people were still snowmobiling across the lakes in April. Ice trial season (basically autocross on ice/snow) up there goes well into Mid-March -- meaning on St. Patrick's Day the ice is still thick enough to drive your car on the lakes.


In Chicago the average January high is 30 and the average low is 15. In Detroit it's 31 and 18, respectively. The average July high in Chicago is 83 and the average low is 63. In Detroit the average July high and low are... 83 and 63. In short, the climates in Chicago and Detroit are identical.
I guess he doesn't understand the weather patterns, but he is right... of course, when it is cold in Detroit... it is freezing in Chicago...then 12 hours later, it is freezing in Detroit b/c most winter weather patterns move east. lol.
 
Old 02-20-2011, 03:07 PM
 
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I don't understand the Chicago vs. New York competition. Chicago has 2,695,000 and NYC has 8,300,000+ residents. A more apt comparison might be Chicago metro area with NYC or Chicago vs. Brooklyn as the latter comparison makes more sense...the whole Chicago vs. NY competition is coming from Chicago; no one in New York is going about how much better NYC is than Chicago...If people know anything about Chicago it's Al Capone, Oprah and the recent humiliation of Olympics, Blago and high population loss...
 
Old 02-20-2011, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Chicago (from pittsburgh)
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No one in their right mind thinks Chicago is better than N.Y. .......what a ridiculous idea.
I prefer Chicago. I don't need reasons to explain why. I just do. Why don't people get flak if they say they prefer San Francisco to New York? People usually don't say "You're out of your mind if you prefer SF to NYC".

**And Cambridge..its funny you say it "always comes from Chicago" when the title of this thread suggests otherwise.
 
Old 02-20-2011, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY $$$
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I prefer Chicago. I don't need reasons to explain why. I just do. Why don't people get flak if they say they prefer San Francisco to New York? People usually don't say "You're out of your mind if you prefer SF to NYC".

**And Cambridge..its funny you say it "always comes from Chicago" when the title of this thread suggests otherwise.
why do people get flak(w/e that means) when people say they prefer a city over a city?

Because some people have some weird reasons as to why they pick that city.

me personally i could care less what city anyone chooses but if your reasons for picking a city over a city doesn't make any sense then i cant take you seriously.
 
Old 02-20-2011, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY $$$
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The only reason why i think people love comparing chicago to nyc is because of the media.

If the media were to start comparing Dallas to nyc everyday of the week starting right now then we would see "Why do people think Dallas is better new york" threads all over city-data.

no hate to Dallas i like Texas so i apologize for bringing your name out like that.
 
Old 02-20-2011, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Chicago (from pittsburgh)
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why do people get flak(w/e that means) when people say they prefer a city over a city?

Because some people have some weird reasons as to why they pick that city.

me personally i could care less what city anyone chooses but if your reasons for picking a city over a city doesn't make any sense then i cant take you seriously.
Flak is a slang term. Excuse my improper speech. I am saying that if someone would say they prefer SF over NYC, or Miami over NYC, or LA over NYC, nobody would say anything. But if somebody says they prefer Chicago over NYC they usually get a remark like "you're out of your mind" or something of that nature. People can like Chicago or NYC or wherever over any city they wish to. There are vibes and attractions in some cities that people prefer over others. You don't need a statistical quantitative reason to say why you like one city over another. You just do.
 
Old 02-20-2011, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY $$$
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Flak is a slang term. Excuse my improper speech. I am saying that if someone would say they prefer SF over NYC, or Miami over NYC, or LA over NYC, nobody would say anything. But if somebody says they prefer Chicago over NYC they usually get a remark like "you're out of your mind" or something of that nature. People can like Chicago or NYC or wherever over any city they wish to. There are vibes and attractions in some cities that people prefer over others. You don't need a statistical quantitative reason to say why you like one city over another. You just do.
your right you don't. I strongly believe in a vibe because i would prefer living in Philly over Chicago and even DC but im sure people on here would ask why in a confusing gesture.

But being on city-data this past year i have noticed people say "your out of your mind" when comparing any city to nyc. I guess nyc is top notch in the majority of categories you put it in against a city.
 
Old 02-20-2011, 06:57 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Default quiet quality > condescending abrasive arrogance

Revisiting this thread, I am particularly fond of the Chicago's North Shore. It is truly a place of immense quiet quality. This is where I grew up. Chicago itself is a magnificent city, but doesn't brag about this fact. Extraordinary in every way, but not in-your-face with it.

NY is too damn in-your-face. Nothing subtle about the place. It too is an extraordinary city, and the people there let you know every waking hour. NY a very unsettling place, too damn aggressive and intrusive in its magnificence.

I prefer quiet quality as it is experienced in the Midwest, not the insulting, condescending arrogance that is NY even when it is expressed quietly.
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