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View Poll Results: Which on do yo prefer?
St Louis 58 49.57%
Austin 59 50.43%
Voters: 117. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-07-2009, 11:51 AM
 
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I'm a big Austin supporter, but St. Louis wins this one.
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Old 12-07-2009, 11:53 AM
 
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I have a lot of friends from New York that wound up in Austin. (and that says a lot about Austin)

I like the entire vibe of the city and the natural scenery of the area surrounding the city. Its a lot nicer than this part of Missouri.

The only problem with Austin is that it becomes "texas" real fast outside of the city borders (Big Pickup trucks, rednecks, big Ol' Lone Star flags and way too much Texas pride).
Not really, it doesn't get like that until you go way out past the suburbs.
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Old 12-07-2009, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
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LOL - that's funny. I am definitely not the biggest champion of Texas; however, some of the most open and gay-friendly people I've ever met have been in Texas. Please don't buy into that BS that Texas is not open to outsiders. Texas is made up of outsiders just like many of the other Sunbelt cities that get the usual, but unwarranted bashing.
For some reason, they just don't like NYers. Texans are very accepting and Gracious when I say I am visiting from Saint Louis (or California).
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Old 12-07-2009, 12:05 PM
 
Location: The land of sugar... previously Houston and Austin
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Austin is one of the few parts of Texas that is open to outsiders, especially NYers.
I disagree.

Houston ranks something like 3rd in the nation in foreign consulates and is very international. There are also a lot of transplants because of the energy industry and medical industry.

Austin has seen a bit of a backlash against Californians lately.

And as a Texan (but not a native) I'll tell you the sentiment I see is that Texas IS open to outsiders, as long as they don't come here to try and change things radically (especially on taxes/fiscal matters) ... don't fix what's not broken!
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Old 12-07-2009, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Surprise, AZ
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For some reason, they just don't like NYers. Texans are very accepting and Gracious when I say I am visiting from Saint Louis (or California).
Perhaps it was just an unfortunate experience for you. I lived in D/FW, Austin, Killeen and I never experienced that. However, (not saying that you do this) if a NY'er moved (or visited) Texas and continued to brag about "NY this...and NY that", they might not get a great reception. I think that goes for most places.
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Old 12-07-2009, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I have a lot of friends from New York that wound up in Austin. (and that says a lot about Austin)

I like the entire vibe of the city and the natural scenery of the area surrounding the city. Its a lot nicer than this part of Missouri.
Oh no! Not New Yorkers moving to Texas. JK! There are many Texans who enjoy giving NYers a hard time for being so far out of their element when they move here or visit, but no hard feelings are intended.


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Austin is one of the few parts of Texas that is open to outsiders, especially NYers.

As a NYer, Texas is not the most pleasant place to be. I learned very quickly to mask a slight NY accent, and tell them I live outside Saint Louis (or California when I lived there)

I got tired of being shut out when my local hosts found out I was from NY.
I'm surprised to here that. I've lived here my whole life, and I've never heard of anyone being reject or "shut out" because they where from New York or anywhere else for that matter. Did you stay out in the boondocks or something?

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Rednecks and pick-up trucks = /= Texas. That's the point I'm getting at; these types of things are parts of all cultures; even up north. Texas must be a very power and influential city if we can:

1. Elect President Bush twice in the house (some people forget there is 49 other states).
2.Influence others to wear cowboy hats and drive pick-up trucks.
As some who has had the misfortune of living in a small hick town (God help me), I can tell you that Texas rednecks are their own unique breed. Texas even has its own music genre of country, Texas Country, which kind of like the indie version of country (very rebellious and anti mainstream). Also, Texas is kind of one of the picturesque places states for country life style (which isn't necessarily redneck) because of it's culture.

But I agreed with you before that Texas is WAY more than just country or redneck even if the outside world hasn't come to terms with that.

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Katy is primarily far-flung cookie-cutter suburbia of Houston.

It's not Houston, nor it is rural Texas. So it's not representative of either. Yet you make judgement calls of both all the time, all of which are very stereotypical and mostly inaccurate and purposely negative/degrading.

I couldn't live in rural Texas (or rural much of anywhere) but don't think it's all bad.
Yeah I agree. Katy sucks but what does that have to do with Austin or St. Louis? I don't see why Houston or its suburbs needs to be brought up anytime Austin is mentioned on these boards.
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Old 12-07-2009, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Perhaps it was just an unfortunate experience for you. I lived in D/FW, Austin, Killeen and I never experienced that. However, (not saying that you do this) if a NY'er moved (or visited) Texas and continued to brag about "NY this...and NY that", they might not get a great reception. I think that goes for most places.
This.
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Old 12-07-2009, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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Austin is one of the few parts of Texas that is open to outsiders, especially NYers.

As a NYer, Texas is not the most pleasant place to be. I learned very quickly to mask a slight NY accent, and tell them I live outside Saint Louis (or California when I lived there)

I got tired of being shut out when my local hosts found out I was from NY.
......I've had two teachers originally from NY, and one from NYC. The one from NYC was one of the best teachers I ever had and all the kids loved her. We did use to make her say stuff because of her accent though.

I'd say Texans and New Yorkers are least likely to get along because they both have lots of pride and huge egos (not all, but some). However, I feel it's the NYers who dislike Texans more.
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Old 12-07-2009, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Houston
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......I've had two teachers originally from NY, and one from NYC. The one from NYC was one of the best teachers I ever had and all the kids loved her. We did use to make her say stuff because of her accent though.

I'd say Texans and New Yorkers are least likely to get along because they both have lots of pride and huge egos (not all, but some). However, I feel it's the NYers who dislike Texans more.
And this.
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Old 12-07-2009, 01:24 PM
 
Location: The land of sugar... previously Houston and Austin
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Yeah I agree. Katy sucks but what does that have to do with Austin or St. Louis? I don't see why Houston or its suburbs needs to be brought up anytime Austin is mentioned on these boards.
Because some people can't bring up Austin without having to throw in the flawed notion that the entire rest of the state is worthless:
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Austin by a wide margin in my view. ... Truly a pearl amongst the swine that is Texas.
(BTW I don't think Katy sucks. It's good at what it does, which is strictly family suburbia with good public schools. It's just that it's not Houston, or typical Texas.)
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