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Unread 12-08-2009, 01:48 PM
 
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San Francisco
850,000

MSA
4,300,000

CSA
7,400,000
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Unread 12-08-2009, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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San Francisco
850,000

MSA
4,300,000

CSA
7,400,000
California is interesting because the State's estimates are really much more accurate. I say that because once the Census is actually taken and the bureau isn just estimating, the results are that CAs own estimates were right all along. Currently the state says the Bay Area CSA has 7.702 Million

Just like in 1999 when the Census said we only had 6.6 Million-the 2000 Census revealed 7 Million.

And so based on California's estimates I'll say:

SF City 860,000
SF MSA 4,600,000
SF CSA 7,800,000

And then there's the question of San Joaquin County, which is very likely to combine with the SF CSA soon(currently sending 13% of all its workers15 as of the latest estimates to the Bay Area-once it hits 15% it will be added as a part of the Bay Area)

Adding San Joaquin could raise the CSA population to as high as 8.5 Million

But who knows.
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Unread 12-08-2009, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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hummm, my guess for my city:

Houston
2.6 million city
wow.

not really a surprise but that's huge.
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Unread 12-08-2009, 02:07 PM
 
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California is interesting because the State's estimates are really much more accurate. I say that because once the Census is actually taken and the bureau isn just estimating, the results are that CAs own estimates were right all along. Currently the state says the Bay Area CSA has 7.702 Million

Just like in 1999 when the Census said we only had 6.6 Million-the 2000 Census revealed 7 Million.

And so based on California's estimates I'll say:

SF City 860,000
SF MSA 4,600,000
SF CSA 7,800,000

And then there's the question of San Joaquin County, which is very likely to combine with the SF CSA soon(currently sending 13% of all its workers15 as of the latest estimates to the Bay Area-once it hits 15% it will be added as a part of the Bay Area)

Adding San Joaquin could raise the CSA population to as high as 8.5 Million

But who knows.
The census probably undercounts the Bay Area significantly because of the # of illegal immigrants in the area. Maybe this would account for the difference. The state's own estimates is likely more accurate, and I'll bet still undercounts the actual population. Lets just hope they do a better job come 2010.

It's only a matter of time when San Juaquin gets added to the Bay Area. I would like to see it sooner than later though.

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Unread 12-08-2009, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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I would LOVE for folks to post the land area of some of these MSA/CSA regions on this thread. Posting land area will help explain a lot when it comes to certain cities appearing to be "bigger" on paper.
All regions follow the same guidelines.

Its just that some area have bigger counties while others draw commuters from farther distances.
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Unread 12-08-2009, 02:19 PM
 
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Detroit

City: 750,000
MSA: 4.48 Million
CSA: 5.4 Million
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Unread 12-08-2009, 02:25 PM
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Detroit

City: 750,000
MSA: 4.48 Million
CSA: 5.4 Million
Wow!
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Unread 12-08-2009, 02:26 PM
 
Location: ITP
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Atlanta

City Proper: 550,000
MSA: 5.7 million
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Unread 12-08-2009, 02:28 PM
 
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Detroit

City: 750,000
MSA: 4.48 Million
CSA: 5.4 Million
Wow. Detroit would have lost over a million people since the peak of 1,850,000 in 1950. Ouch.
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Unread 12-08-2009, 02:31 PM
 
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Minneapolis - 395,000
St. Paul - 290,000
MSA - 3.4 million
CSA - 3.7 million
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