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Old 01-12-2010, 03:19 PM
 
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But I have to agree that you can't really generalize about an entire metro based on those observations. You mention 4 suburbs of these two cities out of literally hundreds.

I've always thought of Alpharetta and Plano as contemporaries/"sister cities" of each other though. I can understand the comparison between the two.

 
Old 01-12-2010, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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that the thing not all of Dallas suburban houses or even houses in Dallas itself are on small lots of land it vary from neighborhood to neighborhood It largely depends on how Wealthy the neighborhood is just like Metro Atlanta. Some Atlanta suburbs like Alpharetta and part of Marrietta are very affluent thus the land lots are bigger but most of Atlanta's suburban houses are on small lots like Dallas yes.
We never said all of them are; we said most of them. Our most affluent neighborhoods are also built on small lots.
 
Old 01-12-2010, 03:28 PM
 
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Have you ever seen The Great Trinity Forest in Dallas!?!
Heard of it, never seen it. But this is a matter of geography. Dallas straddles the Blackland Prairie/Crosstimbers regions, while Atlanta is in the Piedmont/Appalachian foothills. Different climate, different biomes, different flora and fauna, etc...Just by it lying in a prairie, Dallas will not be anywhere as abundant in trees as Atlanta or even Houston in the forseeable future. Keep in mind I'm not saying that Dallas is "treeless" or "barren". It's just that it's not as green as Atlanta. Had Dallas/Ft. Worth developed just 100 miles to the east, where Tyler and Kilgore are, it would be a different story.

However, perception is reality to many people. People from the Southern California or Arizona will find Dallas to be "greener" than what they're accustomed to, whereas someone like me from Atlanta or someone from the Pacific NW will not find Dallas to be quite as "green". YMMV.

Also, when I did a google search of the Great Trinity Forest, this was the second thing that popped up:

Dallas News - The Great Trinity Forest Ain't So Great - page 1

"Although groves of hardwood forest occur in the area, the larger share of the land is second or third growth dominated by invasive species such as Chinese privet, considered an aggressive weed in much of the Southern United States..."

While the concept sounds great on paper, it sounds like the GTF has a bit of a ways to go...

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Old 01-12-2010, 03:35 PM
 
Location: America
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Heard of it, never seen it. But this is a matter of geography. Dallas straddles the Blackland Prairie/Crosstimbers regions, while Atlanta is in the Piedmont/Appalachian foothills. Different climate, different biomes, different flora and fauna, etc...Just by it lying in a prairie, Dallas will not be anywhere as abundant in trees as Atlanta or even Houston in the forseeable future. Keep in mind I'm not saying that Dallas is "treeless" or "barren". It's just that it's not as green as Atlanta. Had Dallas/Ft. Worth developed just 100 miles to the east, where Tyler and Kilgore are, it would be a different story.

Also, when I did a google search of the Great Trinity Forest, this was the second thing that popped up:

Dallas News - The Great Trinity Forest Ain't So Great - page 1

"Although groves of hardwood forest occur in the area, the larger share of the land is second or third growth dominated by invasive species such as Chinese privet, considered an aggressive weed in much of the Southern United States..."

While the concept sounds great on paper, it sounds like the GTF has a bit of a ways to go...
take my word for it, the great trinity "forest" isn't anything special compared to the forested land from i-45 to the atlantic coast
 
Old 01-12-2010, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex
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Heard of it, never seen it. But this is a matter of geography. Dallas is on the plains/crosstimbers, while Atlanta is in the Piedmont/Appalachian foothills. Different climate, different biomes, different flora and fauna, etc...Just by it lying in a prairie, Dallas will not be anywhere as abundant in trees as Atlanta or even Houston in the forseeable future. Keep in mind I'm not saying that Dallas is "treeless" or "barren". It's just that it's not as green as Atlanta.

Also, when I did a google search of the Great Trinity Forest, this was the second thing that popped up:

Dallas News - The Great Trinity Forest Ain't So Great - page 1

"Although groves of hardwood forest occur in the area, the larger share of the land is second or third growth dominated by invasive species such as Chinese privet, considered an aggressive weed in much of the Southern United States..."

While the concept sounds great on paper, it sounds like the GTF has a bit of a ways to go...
Great Trinity Forest
http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfa...y%20Forest.jpg



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIEb9vm-iOA
 
Old 01-12-2010, 03:41 PM
 
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I've always thought of Alpharetta and Plano as contemporaries/"sister cities" of each other though. I can understand the comparison between the two.
They may compare favorably, but my point is that you can't use the comparison to make a general statement about Atlanta vs. Dallas. There are hundreds of other suburbs that aren't anything at all like Alpharetta and Plano.
 
Old 01-12-2010, 03:43 PM
 
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The Great Trinity Forest is but one small part of Dallas...ALL of Atlanta is forested - it isn't limited to one section of forested land.
 
Old 01-12-2010, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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They may compare favorably, but my point is that you can't use the comparison to make a general statement about Atlanta vs. Dallas. There are hundreds of other suburbs that aren't anything at all like Alpharetta and Plano.
yes there is.

I don't think neither Dallas nor Atlanta have diverse suburbs. Don't tell me Plano is unique, because many other suburbs in Dallas look just like it.
 
Old 01-12-2010, 03:49 PM
 
Location: 75025 (previously 75254, 90505, 90010, and 60614)
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yes there is.

I don't think neither Dallas nor Atlanta have diverse suburbs. Don't tell me Plano is unique, because many other suburbs in Dallas look just like it.
Not diverse as in all the burbs look the same?
 
Old 01-12-2010, 03:49 PM
 
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It seems nice and I applaud the efforts of the people working hard to conserve and preserve the area, but trust me, when you live in a city like Atlanta, Dallas' trees are still going to seem shorter and stubbier in comparison.

You want 'urban forest'? Here's some 'urban forest', LOL:

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/4009/p1011284es5.jpg (broken link)




http://www.beforeyoutakethatpill.com...atl_trees3.jpg



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