Dallas vs. Atlanta (better, compared, places, metropolitan)

[grindin]

Originally Posted by polo89

I agree, Dallas is stereotyped like that. I don't know why my fellow Texans are stereotyping ATL like this.

I don't know either. Turnabout is fair play I guess.

[JMT]

Originally Posted by LovinDecatur

A valid comparison, as both metros have two core cities, and the two cities within have a very different character from each other. But the fact is that they are both ONE metropolitan area.
If we're going to get into such a hair-splitting exercise, let's separate the cities of New Orleans (pop 312,000) and Metairie (pop 147,000), Seattle (pop 602,000),Tacoma (pop 197,000), Everett (pop 103,000) and Bellevue (pop 124,000), and San Francisco (pop 809,000) from Oakland (pop 404,000) and San Jose (948,000),
Where exactly does one draw the line?

I don't know. I have friends who just moved here from Fort Worth and they hate and despise Dallas and wish that Fort Worth were its own metro area. Fort Worth was founded before Dallas and is a separate, distinct city that became large on its own, completely independent of Dallas. It was only when Fort Worth's suburbs started to blend with Dallas's suburbs that the two cities became one metro area. It wasn't until the 1980 Census that the two metropolitan areas were merged into one.

It drives my friends nuts that people refer to the DFW airport as "Dallas" instead of "Dallas-Ft Worth." They tell me that this is not an uncommon sentiment among people in Fort Worth. American Airlines, the metroplex's largest employer, is headquartered in Fort Worth, not Dallas, and to the people of Fort Worth that's a pretty big distinction.

Metairie became large because it's next to New Orleans. Same with Bellevue and Seattle. Fort Worth became large because it's Fort Worth, not because it's close to Dallas. There's a big difference.

[RudeBoy21]

Originally Posted by chiatldal

Dallas-FT.Worth are both major cities
Atlanta major city Sandy springs and Marrietta suburbs of Atlanta
Houston major city Sugarland and Baytown are suburbs of Houston

Dallas FT Worth is only larger because there are two major cities. If Houston or Atlanta had help in a conurbation with a city that contribute as much as Fort Worth, they're regions would be more populated than DFW. Which means Houston and Atlanta as cities grow larger Metro populations. Dallas is only part responsible for growing 6.3 million

Just like Ft lauderdale and Miami Is a perfect Example.

Imagine if Atlanta had birmingham as a metroplex Atlanta would be huge if it was as close as Ft Worth is to Dallas. I get what your saying. I think The Dallas people are saying that its now one region cant seperate the 2 regardless if they are 2 major cities they share everything..

[blkgiraffe]

Originally Posted by RudeBoy21

Just like Ft lauderdale and Miami Is a perfect Example.

Imagine if Atlanta had birmingham as a metroplex Atlanta would be huge if it was as close as Ft Worth is to Dallas. I get what your saying. I think The Dallas people are saying that its now one region cant seperate the 2 regardless if they are 2 major cities they share everything..

No; what people are saying is; you can't leave off Fort Worth because it is part of the metro area. Your just fantasizing about adding a city approx. 150 miles away from Atlanta to make a point, but you seem to be forgetting that Fort Worth is only 10 miles from Dallas. This is like me saying; what if Houston and Austin were put together; we'd have a much bigger metro area.

[justme02]

Originally Posted by JMT

I don't know. I have friends who just moved here from Fort Worth and they hate and despise Dallas and wish that Fort Worth were its own metro area. Fort Worth was founded before Dallas and is a separate, distinct city that became large on its own, completely independent of Dallas. It was only when Fort Worth's suburbs started to blend with Dallas's suburbs that the two cities became one metro area. It wasn't until the 1980 Census that the two metropolitan areas were merged into one.

It drives my friends nuts that people refer to the DFW airport as "Dallas" instead of "Dallas-Ft Worth." They tell me that this is not an uncommon sentiment among people in Fort Worth. American Airlines, the metroplex's largest employer, is headquartered in Fort Worth, not Dallas, and to the people of Fort Worth that's a pretty big distinction.

Metairie became large because it's next to New Orleans. Same with Bellevue and Seattle. Fort Worth became large because it's Fort Worth, not because it's close to Dallas. There's a big difference.

I agree that Fort Worth became big on its own, but it became the size that it is part of the Metroplex.

What it amounts to is that DFW is a population center. Its not two seperate cities, its ONE metro area and ONE population center.

Fort Worth and Dallas are different places, yet they are joined at the hip. Fort Worth may be laid back and country will Dallas is uptight and cosmopolitan, but the two work together. They have the same economy, they share the same airport, the same suburbs, etc. And for the record, I would much rather live in Fort Worth than Dallas. Its cheaper and more laid back. With the exception of certain ethnic foods and certain high end shopping stores, you can get anything in Fort Worth that you can in Dallas.

You cant seperate the two. From one edge of the city to the other, its a mere 19 miles. Do you really in good faith believe that they belong in seperate Metro areas? Do you realize how tiny Atlanta would be if you cut of everything outside a 19 mile radius?

The argument seems to be: "Dallas and Fort Worth are both big cities and they are right next to each other. Its unfair. Atlanta should have a big city next to it so it can be as big or bigger. If Atlanta was right next to Birmingham, then it would be really big".

[bgNCATL]

Originally Posted by JMT

I don't know. I have friends who just moved here from Fort Worth and they hate and despise Dallas and wish that Fort Worth were its own metro area. Fort Worth was founded before Dallas and is a separate, distinct city that became large on its own, completely independent of Dallas. It was only when Fort Worth's suburbs started to blend with Dallas's suburbs that the two cities became one metro area. It wasn't until the 1980 Census that the two metropolitan areas were merged into one.

It drives my friends nuts that people refer to the DFW airport as "Dallas" instead of "Dallas-Ft Worth." They tell me that this is not an uncommon sentiment among people in Fort Worth. American Airlines, the metroplex's largest employer, is headquartered in Fort Worth, not Dallas, and to the people of Fort Worth that's a pretty big distinction.

Metairie became large because it's next to New Orleans. Same with Bellevue and Seattle. Fort Worth became large because it's Fort Worth, not because it's close to Dallas. There's a big difference.

We get what you are saying, but Ft. Worth will always be in the shadow of Dallas. It's just the smaller city. People around the country will continue to think of the area as Dallas no matter what. It's kind of like a famous celebrity that has a spouse that no one knows.

[LovinDecatur]

Originally Posted by JMT

I don't know. I have friends who just moved here from Fort Worth and they hate and despise Dallas and wish that Fort Worth were its own metro area. Fort Worth was founded before Dallas and is a separate, distinct city that became large on its own, completely independent of Dallas. It was only when Fort Worth's suburbs started to blend with Dallas's suburbs that the two cities became one metro area. It wasn't until the 1980 Census that the two metropolitan areas were merged into one.

It drives my friends nuts that people refer to the DFW airport as "Dallas" instead of "Dallas-Ft Worth." They tell me that this is not an uncommon sentiment among people in Fort Worth. American Airlines, the metroplex's largest employer, is headquartered in Fort Worth, not Dallas, and to the people of Fort Worth that's a pretty big distinction.

Metairie became large because it's next to New Orleans. Same with Bellevue and Seattle. Fort Worth became large because it's Fort Worth, not because it's close to Dallas. There's a big difference.

Ironically, your bringing up Metairie and Fort Worth reminded me of something I've observed over the years; both of these communities have a history of wanting to disassociate themselves from the larger adjoining city. I've heard many a Metairiean pointedly note that they are from there and NOT New Orleans...particularly if they are what locals refer to as 'Old Metairie'. Same seems to hold true of Fort Worth.
That also seemed to hold true at one time for my hometown of Decatur (a city whose history predates that of Atlanta). In my youth, I heard many a native Decaturite pointedly correct someone by saying that they were from Decatur, not Atlanta...and the two are a whopping six miles apart.

[johnatl]

Originally Posted by WestbankNOLA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlAq_-XeExg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrkaXx3xqpA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc9QscMwR7Q

Real fair comparison here.

Interesting that you would choose to show a suburban Atlanta stretch of I-20 outside the Perimeter - with much more urban corridors in Dallas & Houston.

Yep, no agenda here.

But thanks for showing which is the prettier of the places being compared.

[LovinDecatur]

Originally Posted by johnatl

Real fair comparison here.

Interesting that you would choose to show a suburban Atlanta stretch of I-20 outside the Perimeter - with much more urban corridors in Dallas & Houston.

Yep, no agenda here.

But thanks for showing which is the prettier of the places being compared.

I-20 runs to the south of Downtown Atlanta, so you don't get much of a view of the skyline. I-75-85 running north from the airport and then branching off to I-85 N. would give you great views of Downtown, Midtown and Buckhead.

[RudeBoy21]

Originally Posted by jluke65780

No; what people are saying is; you can't leave off Fort Worth because it is part of the metro area. Your just fantasizing about adding a city approx. 150 miles away from Atlanta to make a point, but you seem to be forgetting that Fort Worth is only 10 miles from Dallas. This is like me saying; what if Houston and Austin were put together; we'd have a much bigger metro area.

JLUKE!!!!!! Read my post again i'm not fantasizing about anything... What I said was what if Birmingham was 10 miles from Atlanta and birmingham kept it's size would Birmingham be in the metro or suburb of Atlanta??