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Old 01-26-2011, 07:20 PM
 
Location: California
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U guys are crazy. The beef between San Francisco and Los Angeles is so big that over the years it has turned into the Nor Cal-So Cal rivalry. And the rivalry is only getting stronger and might even threatened to divied the state in two if this continues any longer.
Also there is a street gang rivalry between the Nortenos of Northern Californians VS Surenos of Southern Californias. Nortenos means Northerner in spanish and Surenos means Southerner as in their respective parts of California. This 50 year war has killed more American citizens then Iraq and Afgahnistan put together(yes i know it is a hispanic gang thing but they are still american citizens. The immigranets from latin america started the border brothers gang and only rareley get recruited into the Nortenos or Surenos.)
Just the other day in Redwood City(a suburb of SF) a 21 year old man was shot to death simply for wearing a dodgers jacket by 3 men wearing SF 49er gear.
The Nor Cal-So Cal rivalry runs deep in hispanic communites across California. And dont forget that there are more hispanic people in California then white people.
Also this rilvary goes back to the Mexican days of California and continued during the civil war by dividing the counties of california into north and south down the middle. So cal was planning on breaking off but Nor Cal didnt allow it.
Trust me, Born and raised in SF. People are dying over this rilvary everyday in the streets, especilly in the hoods and barrios of California. U think im lying, do your research.
Not to mention the economic rivalry between SF and LA as in who is the premeir West Coast city.
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Old 01-26-2011, 09:05 PM
 
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I would take Northern Cal anyday of the week, I love the people there. They are not that snobby and they tend to be very bright.

People from So Cal are really caught up in stereotypes and view you based on race/ethnicity while people in Nor Cal are not like that at all. I have had great experiences with them, god forbid I EVER go back to So Cal.
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Old 01-26-2011, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia,New Jersey, NYC!
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i like socal
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Old 05-03-2011, 07:48 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Seriously, SoCal should not be supporting that many people. It's almost a desert, yet they are taking water from another part of the state to support somewhere which is unsustainable.
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Old 05-03-2011, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland
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Seriously, SoCal should not be supporting that many people. It's almost a desert, yet they are taking water from another part of the state to support somewhere which is unsustainable.
Well, although I agree with your premise, they are still Californians and we are in this together-the nature of being a state means that we help each other out I suppose and that includes the allocation of natural resources.

Anyway, both halves of the state are among the most economically productive regions in the US.

2008 Population
California 36,580,371
Texas 24,304,290
Southern California 22,301,305
New York 19,467,789
Florida 18,423,878
Northern California 14,279,066
Illinois 12,842,954
Pennsylvania 12,566,368
*Los Angeles Combined Statistical Area 17,656,004
*San Francisco Combined Statistical Area 7,330,119

2008 GDP
California $1,925.499 Billion
Texas $1,196.771 Brillion
Southern California $1,139.260 Billion
New York $1,110.712 Billion
Northern Caifornia $786.239 Billion
Florida $747.803 Billion
Illinois $635.080 Billion
Pennsylvania $546.145 Billion
*Los Angeles Combined Statistical Area $900.893 Billion
*San Francisco Combined Statistical Area $542.725 Billion

2008 Per Capita GDP
New York $57,056
Northern California $55,062
California $52,638
Southern California $51,085
Illinois $49,453
Texas $49,241
Pennsylvania $43,462
Florida $40,590
*San Francisco Combined Statistical Area $74,040-BAM! LOL
*Los Angeles Combined Statistical Area $51,024
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Old 05-03-2011, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland
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One thing I find extremely impressive about California as a whole is that even without the gigantic LA area, the rest of the state has a combined $1.025 Trillion GDP. Even without LA and the Bay Area, the rest of the state has a combined $483 Billion GDP.
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Old 05-03-2011, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Bay Area, CA.
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I say to my fellow Californians, stop entertaining East Coasters (mainly NYers) with this stupid rivalry. What makes this state so great is how dynamic BOTH regions are. As a Bay Area native I will say this with the utmost sincerity......I LOVE SOCAL...This means you too LA, even though at times you really frustrate me....lol I have defended you just as I have the Bay. Both regions have captured the imaginations of people around the world and that won't change no matter how much one city puts down the other.
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Old 05-03-2011, 12:43 PM
 
Location: yeah
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Also there is a street gang rivalry between the Nortenos of Northern Californians VS Surenos of Southern Californias. Nortenos means Northerner in spanish and Surenos means Southerner as in their respective parts of California. This 50 year war has killed more American citizens then Iraq and Afgahnistan put together(yes i know it is a hispanic gang thing but they are still american citizens. The immigranets from latin america started the border brothers gang and only rareley get recruited into the Nortenos or Surenos.)
Just the other day in Redwood City(a suburb of SF) a 21 year old man was shot to death simply for wearing a dodgers jacket by 3 men wearing SF 49er gear.
Gee, I wonder why they weren't wearing Giants and Lakers gear...

Notice anything?
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Old 05-03-2011, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I never even realized there was a "rivalry" of any sorts excluding sports teams until I went up to sf awhile back.
They seem to hate us socal folks up there. Lol
I could care less....i love visiting sf and love living in la
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Old 05-03-2011, 03:13 PM
 
Location: The Bay
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Gee, I wonder why they weren't wearing Giants and Lakers gear...

Notice anything?

I was about to say that the victim probably was a Sureno. I'm from RWC... a lot more goes down there than what the news reports because most of the crime happens in an unincorporated part of town (North Fair Oaks). Murders that happen there aren't including in the Redwood City tally. Still, I AM somewhat surprised where this happened... the Vera Block Nortenos generally don't shoot people like that. I'm assuming it was them because Madison's a street over.
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